Originally posted by Grimm22
Torch can definitly take down Wolverine.Heck, Volcana from Secret Wars nearly killed Wolverine. Torch can go much hotter than her anyway.
Other than that, Colossus isnt going to take down Ben.
I agree that Human Torch would take down Wolverine, but Colossus sure as hell would take down Thing.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
Nah. Thing is a better fighter. Prior history in boxing and judo not to mention his history in the air force on special missions. Check out Logan & Ben Grimm comics. Ben is one heck of a fighter.
Colossus is a good fighter as well. He trains in the X-Men Danger Room everyday which is the most high-tech training simulation on the planet. Plus, Colossus is stronger and more durable.
Originally posted by batdude123
Colossus is a good fighter as well. He trains in the X-Men Danger Room everyday which is the most high-tech training simulation on the planet. Plus, Colossus is stronger and more durable.
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Originally posted by batdude123
Colossus is a good fighter as well. He trains in the X-Men Danger Room everyday which is the most high-tech training simulation on the planet. Plus, Colossus is stronger and more durable.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
I never said Colossus wasn't a good fighter. I think he is but I'm 90% certain that Ben is better and Ben is a little more experienced as well.
Experience is debatble considering Colossus has combat simulations in the danger room everyday. Colossus is also stronger and more durable.
Originally posted by batdude123
Experience is debatble considering Colossus has combat simulations in the danger room everyday. Colossus is also stronger and more durable.
Beginning to repeat yourself. No experience is not debatable. Taking on simulated situations is no replacement for the real thing (Thing lol). Ben Grimm had military experience before he became the Thing and afterwards he's had to deal with the likes of Dr. Doom, Annihilus, Terrax, and nearly any other alien threat you can come up with. Not to mention all his battles he's had with people on Earth. Colossus has switched sides, quit and went MIA for extensive periods of time throughout his career. I don't think Colossus is more durable and he might be stronger but Judo teachs you to use your opponents strength against him.
-Wolverine and Colossus will be outnumbered
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-The Torch can fly thus making him immune to the vast majority of Wolverine's and Colossus' attacks
-Nova blast
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Torch and Thing should win 10/10