When C.A., hawkeye and C.M. all use their own fusion styles, I'd say its pretty easy. TM just masters their fighting style. C.A. knows lots of ways to fight, but he uses his own shield-based style for the most part, which is how TM knows how to fight him.
Bats is much smarter than C.A., and when TM blabs about his power, he will definitly start to mix it up.
Taskmaster only gets beaten because he has no goal....nothing drives him...he has nothing to fight for (maybe if his sister got into trouble)
But , if he had more drive, he would be a force to fear.
You gotta remember tho, TM can go 2x normal human speed, BUT, when he does this he tires 2x as fast 🙁 and has to worry about breaking his bones.
But i'd give this to TM if TM had a real reason to fight.
Originally posted by long pig
Taskmaster only gets beaten because he has no goal....nothing drives him...he has nothing to fight for (maybe if his sister got into trouble)
But , if he had more drive, he would be a force to fear.You gotta remember tho, TM can go 2x normal human speed, BUT, when he does this he tires 2x as fast 🙁 and has to worry about breaking his bones.
But i'd give this to TM if TM had a real reason to fight.
You really don't know much about TM.
I happen to have every comic with a TM appearance.
TM loses because the rest of the Avengers show up, and because DD tricks him.
Now, as for the 2x, thats only if he watches it in 2x speed. He watches video in fast forward on the tv, he goes that fast when he does it. Simple. He could replicate the flash, if only for a second or two.
How does anything you just said make it look like I dont know much about TM?
You didn't have or prove a point what-so-ever.
The 2x thing I said was correct....I never mentioned how he could do it, I mentioned that he COULD do it...and when he does, he tires and has to worry about breaking his bones.
Replicating the Flash? no, he couldnt go at light speed if thats what you meant...he could fight LIKE the flash i.e punching and kicking. But who cant?
Originally posted by long pig
How does anything you just said make it look like I dont know much about TM?
You didn't have or prove a point what-so-ever.The 2x thing I said was correct....I never mentioned how he could do it, I mentioned that he COULD do it...and when he does, he tires and has to worry about breaking his bones.
Replicating the Flash? no, he couldnt go at light speed if thats what you meant...he could fight LIKE the flash i.e punching and kicking. But who cant?
No, see, he can do whatever he sees, exactly as he sees it. Thats how he can only reproduce things at high speeds by seeing them at high speeds.
So, he could replicate the Flash's speed, but his body would just break down in like a second, simply because it can't handle the stress. Hell, he'd probably die before even getting as fast as Flash is, but he'd be on his way.
Avengers 196; Taskmaster is doing his thing infront of Ant-man, yellowjacket and The Wasp. The rest of the avengers enter, he flees.
Avengers 223; Taskmaster makes Hawkeye look like a lil' girl, Ant-man shows up and overuns the circus tent with ants and shit. TM ditches.
Daredevil 293; Taskmaster begins to pick up DD's fighting style, and challenge DD to do a move he can't replicate. DD makes him unwittingly jump infront of a cab as it swerves around a corner. Hits TM. TM is out for now.
Daredevil 318; DD tricks TM into jumping up and grabbing some netting shit covered in bugs. He gets tangled up and such.
Deadpool 2; TM loses after taking one of DP's fingers in a fight to the Macarena fighting style pionered here by DP.
"Taskmaster only gets beaten because he has no goal....nothing drives him...he has nothing to fight for (maybe if his sister got into trouble)
But , if he had more drive, he would be a force to fear."
None of those loses seem to have been effected by a lack of a goal.
[Edit] And he is replicating exactly what the flash is doing at the same speed, he just wouldnt survive the amout of acceleration the flash goes through. He'd die in instants as he began to accelerate.
Originally posted by long pig
I was commenting on the character himself.
Meaning, he could take on powerful foes better than he does now, but doesnt because he lacks drive.What drive does he have to finish any fight or risk his life? money?
There aren't many foes he can take that are much more powerful than the avengers.
He does what he does because he likes the money and the thrill.
Don't get me wrong nataku, I mean of course taskmaster isn't going to try and stand up to the higher level heroes like thor and iron man who don't even need a fighting style but instead can rely on a combination of super speed, flight, and ranged weaponry. But against the avengers who are more adept to h2h combat (not that thor isn't but he's a BIG gun) taskmaster runs through them. the only reason he trashed IM was because iron man was dumb enough to try a head on confrontation with taskmaster.
Taskmaster can make short work of anyone if he can remain engaged in h2h combat for any halfway decent amount of time, I think batman definitely fits into this category. Of course when bats realizes whats going on and starts chucking knockout gas, and bat grenades i could definitely see taskmaster on the run, in a straight up fight however, batman will lose.
Batman is much smarter than anyone TM has ever faced. I mean DD punks him everytime they meet, Batman is going to make him look plain ole' stupid. TM ALWAYS tells about his power, so Bats will immediatly realize there is no way he'll win using the same style for a prolonged period. Daredevil showed that TM doesn't pick up a style immediatly, it took TM a little while to get DD's style down, but then he had it pat. Batman can just shift through his styles as he beats on TM, who, while being no slouch at all, is on the tier below bats.
I still disagree. I realize that bats has studied different styles, but doesn't it come out of him as an amalgam of the different styles he's learned over the years? I don't doubt that batman will figure taskmaster out, i just think that if captain america and batman are more or less equal, taskmaster at his best should be able to trounce bats.
Originally posted by jinzin
I still disagree. I realize that bats has studied different styles, but doesn't it come out of him as an amalgam of the different styles he's learned over the years? I don't doubt that batman will figure taskmaster out, i just think that if captain america and batman are more or less equal, taskmaster at his best should be able to trounce bats.
Thats the point, Bats will realize not to keep using that amalgam style, and hell become more specific. So then TM will not know the moves, or he can move in an unpredictable manner. DP figured it out, I'm sure Bats can too.
But yes, I totaly understand what you're saying.