in a random encounter I would give it to taskmaster.
even though batman knows many styles, he still applies them
as batman. he has his style. a style superior to most.
taskmaster doesn't have a style. it's like fighting a split-personality.
one second daredevil, next punisher, next captain america.
batman would eventually see what's going on and realize
he can't simply out-fight taskmaster.
batman has an advantage in intelligence and probably strength.
taskmaster can "double" his speed momentarily.
this stunt should take batman out, but leave taskmaster tired.
his body is still only human.
taskmaster 70% of the time.
batman 30% of the time.
Originally posted by Zahit
in a random encounter I would give it to taskmaster.
even though batman knows many styles, he still applies them
as batman. he has his style. a style superior to most.
taskmaster doesn't have a style. it's like fighting a split-personality.
Read some Bruce lee man, the ultimate fighter is water, adaptable to any situtation, not having any style.
Originally posted by Zahit
one second daredevil, next punisher, next captain america.
batman would eventually see what's going on and realize
he can't simply out-fight taskmaster.
Even though I disagree, you forget that he doesn't have too.
Originally posted by Zahit
batman has an advantage in intelligence and probably strength.
taskmaster can "double" his speed momentarily.
this stunt should take batman out, but leave taskmaster tired.
his body is still only human.
taskmaster 70% of the time.
batman 30% of the time.
Batman can take much more punishment than you're giving him credit for.
bats dodges and uses his million different martial arts and switches fighting styles on the fly so taskmaster can't copy, then ko's taskmaster. then bats exits thinking, 'what a dunce - like no one has tried to shoot me before . . .'
🙂
actually, i don't know WHO would win this fight. it's why i started the thread.
Since dominic/wolf brought it back up, I may as well as throw in mine.
The reason TM loses to people smarter than him and people who are better tacticians is because fighting isn't just putting a move out there. It's about who executes it at a better time, picking just the right move for every situation. Sure TM can do a perfect Spidey flip, but it doesn't mean a damn if he does it into a wall.
While I agree, I'll have to mention that Taskmaster can make a perfect Spidey flip without hitting a wall. 😛
That whole argument works under the assumption that Taskmaster can only do movements, not properly apply them. "Tony" is a lot smarter than that; he doesn't just copy movements, he studies them. Which also means he practices with them. He can make the same movements and he can properly apply them, albeit not as well as someone who has been using it for longer periods of time (i.e., Taskmaster can throw a shield exactly like Cap, but he probably doesn't know as many tricks).
Technically, Taskmaster can do the exact same thing Batman can do and switch up his style in order to confuse and better match whatever Batman himself is doing. And yes, actually, Taskmaster technically can match Slade's pre-cog, though not on the same level. Tasky, after learning his opponent's movements and fighting style, can predict what they'll do next, which is exactly how Slade works (Slade DOES NOT have actual pre-cog, for those who didn't know. His mind in all of its tactical genius works like the Midnighter's, in which it runs through all the possibilities a fight can go through in the blink of an eye; he can also be messed up with unpredictable fighting methods).
Since Batman and Taskmaster are essentially physically the same and both have a myriad of technical gadgets, neither has an advantage in this area. However, despite Task's ability to meet Batman h2h, Batman's technical know-how for fighting is better, and though Taskmaster is incredibly smart and a great tactician by his own right, I can't honestly say he's better than Batman.
Batman wins this, but by a close margin.
[QUOTE=4058648]Originally posted by leonidas
[B]bats dodges and uses his million different martial arts and switches fighting styles on the fly so taskmaster can't copy, then ko's taskmaster. then bats exits thinking, 'what a dunce - like no one has tried to shoot me before . . .'
no he can shot him becuse he seen bullseye do it so there task wins 😛
Well after reading Wanderer's post I don't know if I would come to the same conclusion.
"Batman's technical know-how for fighting is better"
I don't know if there is any way to prove that statement.
Who can say? I mean Taskmaster's whole life is fighting. We've seen Taskmaster take it to the most experience fighters after studying, and thusly, learning their moves. Who is to say Batman's experience will be any different? I know that this messege board sort of established the rumor that Batman is the greatest h2h of all time; but i'd be willing to make the arguement that Taskmaster is better at h2h.
I pretty much agree with Wanderer259's assessment.
But, I think it's a closer fight than Batman winning all the time.
Yes he's smarter and CAN win, but I think Taskmaster COULD
put some serious hurt on him. I don't think Batman has ever
faced someone with Taskmaster's range and particular talent.
Batman can figure it out, but in the meantime he could get
seriously hurt.
I say in a no-prep street fight:
Batman 45%
Taskmaster 55%
With any knowledge of Tasky, then Batman WILL definitely pull a win.
Originally posted by Zahit
I pretty much agree with Wanderer259's assessment.
But, I think it's a closer fight than Batman winning all the time.
Yes he's smarter and CAN win, but I think Taskmaster COULD
put some serious hurt on him. I don't think Batman has ever
faced someone with Taskmaster's range and particular talent.
You mean like Prometheus?