X-man and Franklin Richards VS Superman Prime and The Spectre!

i am well aware of superman PRIME'S powers but i still say that even nate can take care of prime, for one reason, even cable has the power to extinguish stars, and nate is even more powerful than cable, and as u said "prime became the SUN ITSELF.
and as far as the thing with spectre beeing as powerful as tribunal goes,well that was when tribunal wasnt the supreme being guy in the marvel universe, he was quite weak then and we shouldnt forget that spectre's powers dont compare to beings like lucifer{and lucifer has only half the powers of franklin}.

and i dont think that prime could have beaten lucifer{he mustv been powered down or something}

the only reason the spectre "isnt" seen to be tribunal's equal is becuase

is because he isnt. Yeah I think its a pretty good reason too.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i am well aware of superman PRIME'S powers but i still say that even nate can take care of prime, for one reason, even cable has the power to extinguish stars, and nate is even more powerful than cable, and as u said "prime became the SUN ITSELF.
and as far as the thing with spectre beeing as powerful as tribunal goes,well that was when tribunal wasnt the supreme being guy in the marvel universe, he was quite weak then and we shouldnt forget that spectre's powers dont compare to beings like lucifer{and lucifer has only half the powers of franklin}.

and i dont think that prime could have beaten lucifer{he mustv been powered down or something}

were did you get the idea franklin is more power then Lucifer Morningstar???Lucifer Morningstar is makes spectre and parallax look like nothing

As powerful as Franklin is he is STILL only a mutant. I mean he was killed in the future, besides the High evolutionary found a way to cancel mutant powers.

Didn't Superman one time defeated the whole GL Corps and said something like "A thought based weapon is useless against someone who is faster than thought"?

As powerful as Franklin is he is STILL only a mutant. I mean he was killed in the future, besides the High evolutionary found a way to cancel mutant powers.

He wasnt killed in another realities future (the one where hyperstorm is from) but he had a collar on, had to have been under utilizing his powers in another reality he becomes galactus so..... Other realities dont have baring on what will happen in the mainstream, they are just possibilities.

Frank can alter reality, I dont think people are getting that.

Proteus, X-man, Gaia, Nina, Hyperstorm and maybe Legion have the power to alter reality. The thing is that many beings can alter reality, personally i think that Franklin is a little bit overrated. As i said earlier people like High Evolutionary, Doom, Reed Richards can easily invent a device or something that will render all mutants powerless!

Originally posted by The Flash
Didn't Superman one time defeated the whole GL Corps and said something like "A thought based weapon is useless against someone who is faster than thought"?

Proteus, X-man, Gaia, Nina, Hyperstorm and maybe Legion have the power to alter reality. The thing is that many beings can alter reality, personally i think that Franklin is a little bit overrated. As i said earlier people like High Evolutionary, Doom, Reed Richards can easily invent a device or something that will render all mutants powerless!

None on the scale that Franklin will. Where did the High Evolutionary do this? What do you mean easily?

The thing about these comics is that you could write a guy to do anything but in terms of power, those 3 do not compare. Whats to say that he doesnt simply render them powerless? Or something of that nature.

If Franklin is of such a high level of power, whats to say his power can be render useless by one of them? Hes got power on the cosmic scale, im pretty sure he could do something to defend himself against such a thing.

Didn't Superman one time defeated the whole GL Corps and said something like "A thought based weapon is useless against someone who is faster than thought"?

Well in order for superman to defeat them all, hed have to be thinking too. So unless hes faster than his thoughts than that wouldnt be correct.

Supes speed though is one of the reason why I could never buy it that Hulk beats him.

Hehe...heh...Franklin is uh...an ant compared to Superman Prime...so is X-Man.

If you are talking about the kid franklin, yes maybe.

PROME ALSO HAD A SWORD(WITCH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WAS AS POWERFUL IF NOT MORE THEN THE COSMIC CUBE)

what would be the point of a GL ring then?>

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i am well aware of superman PRIME'S powers but i still say that even nate can take care of prime, for one reason, even cable has the power to extinguish stars, and nate is even more powerful than cable, and as u said "prime became the SUN ITSELF.
and as far as the thing with spectre beeing as powerful as tribunal goes,well that was when tribunal wasnt the supreme being guy in the marvel universe, he was quite weak then and we shouldnt forget that spectre's powers dont compare to beings like lucifer{and lucifer has only half the powers of franklin}.

and i dont think that prime could have beaten lucifer{he mustv been powered down or something}

anotherthing Archangel Gabriel & his brother Lucifer Morningstar are just way to power for any mutant and there second in power after The Presence/The great best. Archangel Gabriel & his brother Lucifer Morningstar only have half of there powere cuss its divided in themselves.they both have power to creat universes with ease but if both wanted they could creat multiverse.as power as Franklin he cant creat multiverses that would be like saying his more powerful then Thanos with the heart.

Whats the difference between a multiverse and multiverses?

Multiple, mutiple universes? Is that what its suppose to mean?

my bad

The Big Bang. The universe is created, formed of vapor and forged with fire. Great energies are born and just as quickly dies as that which was formless struggles to find a form, and that which is without reason seeks purpose. Out of this is born that which is eternal, that which is all and beyond all... The Source. This point in time is often referred to as the "First World".
Using his special time-bending device Krona gazes unto the beginning of the universe and ends up unleashing the Anti-Matter Universe.
At the moment of creation the entity known as The Voice, as well as the two eternal forces known as Order and Chaos also come into existence. Some evidence even indicate that the Source and the Voice are but two aspects of the same. Shortly after the creation of the universe, when the Voice first opens its mouth it creates the Word. Before it is ever spoken aloud, the word was traced by the hand of the Endless known as Destiny on the first pages of his book.
The time-travelling Spectre finally succeeds in defeating Shathan. Showcase #61 (March 1966), "Beyond the Sinister Barrier"
The next three of the Endless to come into existence are Death, Dream, and Destruction. It is known that Destruction, the youngest of the three, come into being as the first sentient beings emerges in the universe.
Entities known as the Aurakles also come into being at this time.
At some undisclosed point early in the creation of the universe, however after the first four of the Endless, the Archangels known as Lucifer, Uriel, Raphael, Michael, Saraquael, Gabriel, and Ragual come into existence. Early on one-third of the angels of Heaven, led by Lucifer, rebel against their master and are banished to the metaphysical realm that will one day become known as Hell.

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supremthor

didnt prime defeat Lucifer Morningstar?(who by my understanding is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful then spectre and parallax,Lucifer Morningstar who could basically withstand an explosion that could wipe out the whole multiverse)

To answer this, NO. Prime never did such a thing. There was rumors about him beating Michael, not Lucifer, when Prime tore down the gates of heaven. But he NEVER did such a thing. If he can do that, he wouldn't need a GL ring to Solaris. It's just a rumor, nothing more.

If anyone thinks otherwise, please provide proof that he did such a thing as beating Michael, Lucifer, or tearing downs the gates of heaven.

anotherthing Archangel Gabriel & his brother Lucifer Morningstar are just way to power for any mutant and there second in power after The Presence/The great best. Archangel Gabriel & his brother Lucifer Morningstar only have half of there powere cuss its divided in themselves.they both have power to creat universes with ease but if both wanted they could creat multiverse.as power as Franklin he cant creat multiverses that would be like saying his more powerful then Thanos with the heart.

Another thing, Michael is Lucifers brother, not Gabriel. And without Michael's help, Lucifer wouldn't have been able to create the multiverse - they need each other to do that.