Onslaught vs Dark Phoenix

It was an illusion if I recall correctly. my bad on that.

DP.

"DP."

I thought that reality warping powers could overwhelm her......

Well she isn't just going to stand there and let Onslaught do his thing. DP is abstract level. Onslaught isn't.

After having absorbed Franklin, he is.

Still not enough. Dark Phoenix was probably = to FP Tyrant. Leagues above Frankie.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
"DP."

I thought that reality warping powers could overwhelm her......

hit the quote button. and what makes you think that? and if it were true what makes you think onslaught's level of reality warping could affect her? what feats does he have that would indicate he could take her?

Originally posted by leonidas
hit the quote button. and what makes you think that? and if it were true what makes you think onslaught's level of reality warping could affect her? what feats does he have that would indicate he could take her?

This is Frankie Onslaught. But yeat DP wins IMO too.

Because Franklin Richards was considered to be near Celestial level of power. That should be above Dark Phoenix.

The only problem I have here is that both Franklin and X-Man were resisting Onslaught, so Onslaught might not have full control over their powers. Did Onslaught fully absorb their powers?

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Because Franklin Richards was considered to be near Celestial level of power. That should be above Dark Phoenix.

The only problem I have here is that both Franklin and X-Man were resisting Onslaught, so Onslaught might not have full control over their powers. Did Onslaught fully absorb their powers?

why should that be above DP? DP was only defeated via plot device--jean's resurgent personality. even if you consider frank near celestial level that is STILL in no way a guarantee onslaught would be above. far from it in fact. using PF's higher end feats one could easily argue the PF>celestials.

Originally posted by leonidas
why should that be above DP? DP was only defeated via plot device--jean's resurgent personality. even if you consider frank near celestial level that is STILL in no way a guarantee onslaught would be above. far from it in fact. using PF's higher end feats one could easily argue the PF>celestials.

The Phoenix Force is on Galactus' level. Molecule Man, Beyonder, Jaspers, and Eternity can all defeat the Phoenix Force.

Alot more beings can defeat Galactus/Phoenix but Celestials aren't those beings(except Scathan and possibly Tiamut).

I know in the Twelve story arc Apocalypse loosely implied that Phoenix and Onslaught were on an equal level. At least that's what i caught from it. He also claimed that the power of the Twelve would make him more powerful than both.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
The Phoenix Force is on Galactus' level. Molecule Man, Beyonder, Jaspers, and Eternity can all defeat the Phoenix Force.

proof?

Originally posted by rader
I know in the Twelve story arc Apocalypse loosely implied that Phoenix and Onslaught were on an equal level. At least that's what i caught from it. He also claimed that the power of the Twelve would make him more powerful than both.

Apocalypse claims to know a lot of things, yet he fails to execute many of his plans.

Onslaught taunted Jean so he could absorb the Phoenix force, that was at base level, whether his empowered version could do it or not can only be speculated