Originally posted by hh?
and this coming from a guy with a naked santa sig 🙄its NOT part of hip hop, its a very new thing. study your hip hop history kid.
um actually, YOU go back and study your hip-hop history. Thats how you found out who was the best, by battle rapping! Before you could get a video and magazine covers, you had to prove that you were good and that much better than the other dude up there. It may not have been as personal as it is nowadays, but thats how hiphop changes. And as far as it not being real, how would it be fake? Its not the WWE, this is real life, and if someone insults you in front of the people who pay you, you tend to get upset.
But i whole heartedly agree that 50 needs to die a slow painful death, by where he's disemboweled then chokes on his own flesh after someone shoves it down his throat.
Originally posted by Darth SubjektThere is a difference between battle rapping and writing diss tracks in a studio then releasing them to the public. Battle rapping is an art. You have to think on your feet and be creative. Diss tracks are part of hip hop history too.. look at KRS-one's "The Bridge is Over." But to me this beef was just annoying and gay, and went too far especially after we've already seen what can happen in result of this stuff.
um actually, YOU go back and study your hip-hop history. Thats how you found out who was the best, by battle rapping! Before you could get a video and magazine covers, you had to prove that you were good and that much better than the other dude up there. It may not have been as personal as it is nowadays, but thats how hiphop changes. And as far as it not being real, how would it be fake? Its not the WWE, this is real life, and if someone insults you in front of the people who pay you, you tend to get upset.But i whole heartedly agree that 50 needs to die a slow painful death, by where he's disemboweled then chokes on his own flesh after someone shoves it down his throat.
Diss tracks have been going on for years. I started listening to hip hop in the 80's. I remember Kool Moe Dee and LL Cool J going at it, Tim Dog and NWA was another one i remember and of course NWA and Ice Cube. I think the fact that its Feminem and Ja Hobbit people have just laughed it off because they are both such wannabees. I mean they sit there in their mansions talking about how hard they are and how they are going to do this and that to each other, no-one buys it (no-one with more than 3 brain cells anyway).
Originally posted by koolruningz
Diss tracks have been going on for years. I started listening to hip hop in the 80's. I remember Kool Moe Dee and LL Cool J going at it, Tim Dog and NWA was another one i remember and of course NWA and Ice Cube. I think the fact that its Feminem and Ja Hobbit people have just laughed it off because they are both such wannabees. I mean they sit there in their mansions talking about how hard they are and how they are going to do this and that to each other, no-one buys it (no-one with more than 3 brain cells anyway).
"....i aint no gangsta, but you aint neither...." Eminem - My Name f. Xzibit
" ..through all this shit, never once did you hear me say im a gansta, and i'm not....." Eminem - Shady Mixtape.
So when was Em saying how hard he was? So if youre rich and live in a mansion, youre automatically soft? Tell that to boxers or wrestlers, or other atheletes.....and what did Em say he was gonna do in a rap that could be taken as a real threat, rather than just clever word play? I think its shitty that it was 50's and Ja's beef, but Ja felt he had to go after eminem to try to "earn" a real rep or credability as an emcee, since the world knows hes really garbage......and i also agree with the dude that said theres a difference between battles and diss tracks....but as someone else said, "the bridge is over" and other such songs, WERE part of hip hop and that just allowed emcees that couldnt meet face to face, to battle each other, and thats still true today. You aim for the top dog and attack him and make a name for yourself...but do it respecfully. We dont need to suffer another 2pac, biggie, Big L, or JMJ.
found this today at another site
i always hated Jay-z, and now here's some proof to why he's the biggest biter...
Jay-Z The Biter
--Jay-z on Squeeze First
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
Biggie smalls on Hypnotize
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
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Big L (RIP) on the 7 minute 95' freestyle with Jigga
"All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"
jay-z on A Million and One Questions
"All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"
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jay-z (takeover)
"Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"
Dre on the 2001 LP..
"You get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"
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Jay-Z (give it to me)
"When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
Will I fuc*k 'em will I diss 'em, that's what they be yellin
I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
Y'all be chasin, I replace them, huh?
Drunk off Crist"
Biggie: (the world is filled)
"When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
Will I fuc*k em will I diss em, that's what these hoes yellin
I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
Y'all still chase on, I'll replace on, punks
Drunk of Dom"
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Jay-Z: (squeeze first)
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last
That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
Biggie: (hypnotize)
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last
That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
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Jay-Z: (- "Squeeze 1st" )
"thou shalt not fuc*k with raw me, or he
Face a thousand deaths...
Biggie: (- "Who Shot Ya" )
"Thou shalt not fuc*k with raw C-Poppa
Feel a thosand deaths...
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Jay-Z: (- "Friend or Foe 98" )
"Do me a favor dude, get 2 ice cubes I pass them
Take that ice up, for the nicest MC"
Biggie: (- "Unbelievable" )
"Get ready to die, tell God I said hi
And throw down some ice, for the nicest MC"
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Jay-Z: (- "The Ruler's Back" )
"Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"
Biggie: (-"Kick in The Door" )
"Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jay-Z: (-"Girls...RMX" )
"isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"
Biggie: (- "One More Chance" )
"isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jay-Z: (real nig*gaz)
"On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niqqaz do real things"
Biggie: (real nig*gas)
"On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niqqaz do real things"
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Jay-Z: (- "Frestyle" )
"Old school, new school need to know this
I burn like Left Eye Lisa Lopez"
Biggie: (- "Who Shot Ya" )
"Old school new school need to learn though
I burn baby burn like Disco Inferno"
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Jay: (- Is That Yo B1tch )
"I don't chase em I duck em I replace em"
Biggie: (- One More Chance )
"I don't chase em I replace em"
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JIGGA: (jigga my ²²²²²)
"From the crap tables down in A.C.
back on the block Jay-Z motherfuc*ker from the, the, the Roc
Went solo on that ass but it´s still the same
Brooklyn be the place where I serve them thangs
...You heard the name"
"he is I, and I am him
Slim with the tilted brim on twenty inch rims"
SNOOP: (Who Am I -What's My Name?-)
"From the depths of the sea, back to the block
Snoop Doggy Dogg, funky as the, the, The D.O.C
Went solo on that ass, but it´s still the same
Long Beach is the spot where I served my cane
...what's my mother****in name"
"He is I, and I am him, slim with the tilted brim"
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Jay: (bonnie Clyde 03)
"All I need in this world of sin is me and my girlfriend"
2pac: (-Me and my girlfriend )
"All I need in this world of sin is me and my girlfriend"
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jay: (never change )
From the womb to the tomb, from now until my doom
Drink army from one cup pass it around the room,
That's the ritual
Nas: ( verbal Intercourse )
From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable
Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual -
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BIGGIE
"i fuc*ked this girl, ate a ham sandwich and managed/
to damage like jeru, hey you, let's fuc*k, i like boners"
JAY-Z
"i fuc*ked this bit*ch, ate a spam manwich and managed/
to dama-ja like nero, hey you, let's fuc*k, i like cock"
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Jigga:
"Thug Nig*ga till the end, tell a friend, bitc*h"
Biggie:
"Thug nig*ga till the end, tell a friend, bitc*h"
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2pac
"im from the cuty where tha skinny niqqaz die"
jay-z (bp2)
"im from the cuty where tha skinny niqqaz die"
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2pac
"my attitude is fuc*k it, and muthafucaz love it"
jay-z (bp2)
"my attitude is fuc*k it, and muthafucaz love it"
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2pac
"this is payback, i knew you bitc*h niqqaz from way back.."
jay-z (bp2)
"this is payback, i knew you bitc*h niqqaz from way back.."
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Mase
"Why you over here looking at me, while my girl standing here"
jay-z
"Why you over here lookin at me, while all these girls up in here"
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Biggie
"It was all a dream"
Jay-z
"It was all a dream"
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Nas
"The rap version of sisqo"
Jay-z
"The rap version of T.D. Jakes"
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Notorious B.I.G.
"Aint no other kings in this rap think they siblings"
Jay-z
"Aint no other kings in this rap thing, ya kiddin"
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Notorious B.I.G.
"Kick In The Door waving the 4x4 all I heard was biggie i dont want it no more"
Jay-z
"Kick In The Door waving the 4x4 all I heard was jigga i dont want it no more"
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Notorious B.I.G.
"I see some ladies tonight that should be having my baby.. baby."
Jay-z
"I see some ladies tonight that should be rollin wit Jay-Z, Jay-Z"
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Nas
"Somehow the rap game reminds me of the crack game"
Jay-Z
"Somehow the rap game reminds me of the crack game"
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"Rocafella is a army, better yet the navy/niccas will kidnap your baby spit at your lady"-Jay-Z
"Cash Money is a army, better yet the Navy/so if you ever playa hate me for you, it aint gravy"-BG
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"in these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like jay -z" - jigga
"in these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like ricky d." - slick rick
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"Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun..."
- jay-z, "s. carter"
"Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun..."
- rakim, "no competition"
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"s dots on my feet makes my cypher complete" JAY Z
"suede tims on my feet makes my cypher complete" NAS
(let me guess Jay-Z made this a hot song as well?
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Biggie
The rings and things you sing about bring em out
It's hard to yell when the barrel's in your mouth
Jay
The rings and things you sing about bring em out
It's hard to yell when the barrel's in your mouth
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Re: eminem and ja rule beef is over!!!!!!!
Originally posted by 5knuckleShuffle
eminem made a track called like toy soilders on his new album titled 3ncore. today on b.e.t ( black entertainment television)ja rule answered to the quistion is the beef really over?
he said yes.
O_o.... B.E.T?
wow, u like malubu's most wanted
where the **** did you learn about rap?
where else? BET
and, you spelled question wrong..... nice job
Originally posted by koolruningz
Diss tracks have been going on for years. I started listening to hip hop in the 80's. I remember Kool Moe Dee and LL Cool J going at it, Tim Dog and NWA was another one i remember and of course NWA and Ice Cube. I think the fact that its Feminem and Ja Hobbit people have just laughed it off because they are both such wannabees. I mean they sit there in their mansions talking about how hard they are and how they are going to do this and that to each other, no-one buys it (no-one with more than 3 brain cells anyway).
exactly, i dunt like neither of em, i only listen to eminem when hes makin fun of people, only for a laugh
Wow.. benzino's response to Like Toy Soldiers.
http://www.thesource.com/video/benzino/
That is some bad acting in the beginning.
Benzino man, such a stupid old waster.
Actually reminds me of certain people on this board when it comes to debates.
When you walk away after you've said all there is to say, they make a post saying "Yeah you know you've lost". Like Benzino is doing there.
Thinks having the last word equates to being the winner.
****ing moron. I don't think there's ENOUGH gun crime in Hip Hop. Give these guys bazookas and let them rid the world of each other.
-AC
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
"....i aint no gangsta, but you aint neither...." Eminem - My Name f. Xzibit" ..through all this shit, never once did you hear me say im a gansta, and i'm not....." Eminem - Shady Mixtape.
So when was Em saying how hard he was? So if youre rich and live in a mansion, youre automatically soft? Tell that to boxers or wrestlers, or other atheletes.....and what did Em say he was gonna do in a rap that could be taken as a real threat, rather than just clever word play? I think its shitty that it was 50's and Ja's beef, but Ja felt he had to go after eminem to try to "earn" a real rep or credability as an emcee, since the world knows hes really garbage
Eminem is forever talking about how hard he is (whether he is serious or not only he knows). I never said he called himself a gangster, how could he? Its bad enough Ja Rule thinks he's a gangster, if Eminem tried to go that route he would be laughed off the face of the planet. You cant tell me that artists move to Hollywood and retain their credibility in the hip hop world, they are considered sell outs for the most part. Even legends like Ice-T and Cube dont get the props they used to get when they were coming up. It must have a negative affect on the music if Eminems last album is to be judged. If you move away from the inspiration of your music then it must suffer, thats just common sense (and the proof is in the music).
youre right, but Ice T and Cube werent known for their lyrical guiness, eminem is. Honestly i think there might be a handful of emcess at best, that can kep up with him, and theyre all underground.....today to get a record deal, all you have to do is sound like an 80's wrestler and yell "WHAT" "YEAHHH" "OKAAAAYYY". Since when did crap deserve to be called hip-hop? And how did it make it look when Cash Money was out in the middle of the "hood" with 200,00 dollar cars doin doughnuts? If they were doin that shit for real, a real gangsta or just someone who really is hard, would snub'em from the back and take their jewels and cars. He moved out of the Detroit area so he COULD have nice things for him and his daughter. Granted this album isnt his best, but neither is his first mainstream album, maybe in lyrical format wise, but not overal. His best was The Eminem Show, and that was after he moved away from his "roots"
And the things about guns, who the hell doesnt talk about guns in raps? He says it for comical effect, whereas others say, "thats how i lived, dog....i was a gangsta now im makin tracks about it!" But at least you heard about him pistol whippin somebody, lol.