馃槀 Heheh.. ESPECIALLY when u'r running up...I had a (karate)training course about 4 years ago, near Ballaton Fured I think, and the sensei was a guy who was training special army forces adn used to wake us up at 5 am and run us 15 km up some hills nearby...at least we could have a bath in the lake later on 馃檪