grievous' species and stuff on sifo-dias

Originally posted by Mist
im just gonna slow down a bit here.....so....
sidious placed an order for the clones, knowing they would be useful in the future. he then tells dooku that sifo dyas placed the order, and tells dooku that sifo dyas must be killed off.
but, sifo dyas had no idea about the clones? sidious just wanted to see if dooku could kill another jedi as a loyalty promise type thing?

Yeah, that's what makes sense to me, based on this info (if it is true).
If Sifo-Dyas really ordered the Clones, he did so behind the Council's back.
Mace and Yoda don't remember authorisation for such an action, remember.

It has been set up as a mystery, the person who ordered the Clones.
It would be a great gag if it was revealled that it really was Sifo, but not one that I think GL would pull.
I for one wouldn't be amused - why present it as a mystery if what we learned in AOTC was true?
Waste of plot time.

Sidious wants the army.
He ordered it and hung it on the Jedi.
Even his apprentice doesn't know he did it.

Just my opinion, but I can't see it being Sifo.

the mystery part was supposed to show us that there is confusion within the jedi temple. the dark side has been clouding the force, and not even the safest place - jedi temple - can be left untouched by corruption. the jedi start losing their ability to see through the force, hence, why thethe whole mystery has surfaced. if the clones were ordered long before TPM, the jedi could have sensed the creation and deception within their temple.

also, in the novels by timothy zahn, luke has a strange feeling when clones are present. is this just sensed by him, or would the whole jedi order have the same feelings?

Okay then, lets agree to disagree 🙂

You say Sifo ordered the clones.
I say Palpatine did, and this is not revealed until later in the book.

im not saying sifo did, im just putting both stories together and seeing which one is more likely. i dont have an opinion of who ordered the clones, ill wait until it is actually confirmed in ep3. i like speculation!🙂

This may be a silly question, but do we know for shure that sifo-dias is dead? Perhaps Dooku defeated him but could not yet bring himself to kill a Jedi, so instead he told him to leave the Order and hide himself.

We know from Pabs that the person who ordered the clones was on-screen in Episode II so perhaps Sifo had a cameo.

Originally posted by Darth Surgent
^ Everything that isn't Episodes 1-6 or comments from GL = EU

Just wanting to stamp down on this one- Surgent, you mean non-canon, NOT EU.

Again, this is referred to in the sticky thread at the top of the main page. 'EU' is not a term that refers to all non-canon products, EU is a term for a line of products that happen to be non-canon. There are plenty of other products which are not EU and not canon either- the best example is the website.

i really hope its all explained it EP3, wot do u think?

i dont understand anything!

Interesting.

I wonder, if the Jedi took part in a conflict against Grievous's race, could that be why he hates Jedi?

I think, Dooku ordered the clones. Sifo Dias was then murdered by Dooku because Sidious told him to. It also is a red herring for the Jedi Council to distract them into thinking Sifo Dias ordered the clones. He then told Jango Dooku goes by the name of Tyranus which in my eyes, explains everything even AotC and TPM.

🤨 I have a theory about Sifo and GG. I think GG is Sifo Dyas. Perhaps Sifo was a Jedi left for dead sometime ago during some kind of battle. Then after he was mechanized swore revenge against the Jedi for abandoning him. Perhaps that is why he hunts them. This is just a thought.