This political correctness and religion rightousness is getting way outta hand. No matter what you do someone will be offended. You can't make everyone happy, so why make the majority miserable with crap like that? The idea of Santa has been around for over 100 years (Coca Cola creation), and he stands for everything happy and nice.
Though if you read into the songs about him, "He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake; he knows when you've been bad or good..." if you think political correctness he's a stalker. *lol* And he believes in home invasion. *lolx2*
Originally posted by Reborn Again
The idea of Santa has been around for over 100 years (Coca Cola creation), ...
People are so up tight these days that no one can do anything during Christmas time it's like you can't even display nativity scene decoration and to take Santa out of schools that is pathetic hell they even band Christmas carols all I have to say to those who hate Christmas is that's just to d.. bad that we all are happy and your not so from me to you Merry Christmas and have happy new year.If anyone told me to take my decorations down I would say get off my property before call the cops and the ACLU they are the main problem first they go after Santa and decorations next they'll say it's unconstitutional to go to church on Christmas eve all I have to say to ACLU up yours.
True, but still, its a bit like hanging a happy birthday banner, or wearing a beanie to a foot ball match, its sometimes just nice to celebrate something, to do something festive, something fun, for what is, to many people, an important time, sticking a plastic Santa up is just getting into the festive spirit which would effect the people any way, be it through whats on TV, or what the rest of the world is doing....etc
The following article is by Eric Zorn and originally appeared in December 7th, 2004 edition of the Chicago Tribune.
'Save Christmas' Crusader Targets Wrong EnemyThe Alliance Defense Fund and I claim to have common cause: We want to save Christmas.
But while representatives of the fund say they want to save Christmas from the American Civil Liberties Union, I want to save it from ignorance--specifically the brand of alarmist ignorance peddled by the Alliance Defense Fund when it attacks the ACLU.
In Monday's Tribune, my colleague Jeff Long wrote about the controversy at suburban Spring Grove Elementary School, where a recent multicultural holiday pageant omitted mentions of Christ or the Christmas story.
In rushed Chicago attorney Andy Norman, a member of the ADF, charging that the program had been "cleansed," warning the school against "discriminatory practices for people of faith" and saying he wanted to "save Christmas from" the ACLU.
A recent news release on the ADF site said: "Public schools, municipalities, and even many Christians have fallen prey to the disinformation often propagated by the American Civil Liberty Union's allies and other Scrooge-like groups that the mention of Christmas, the singing of Christmas carols, and the display of traditional Christmas symbols are violations of the Constitution's Establishment Clause."
Norman told me Monday that the ACLU "has its fingerprints all over a number of things that cause me to conclude that it has policy that's quite anti-religious," then e-mailed me just three legal citations over the last 20 years dealing with the ACLU and Christmas issues.
This was after I reminded him that the ACLU frequently goes to court to fight for the rights of believers to practice their faith, and that in 1995 the ACLU signed on to the Joint Statement of Current Law on Religion in the Public Schools.
That statement aggressively reminded educators of students' rights to express their faith in public school in numerous ways and for schools to present religiously inspired material--including music--as long as it was in a clearly educational setting.
In other words, students in a public school assembly in December can sing "Silent Night" (as they should and as, indeed, 4th graders will in a Spring Grove program next week), so long as the context makes it clear that the school district isn't taking a formal position one way or the other about the lyrical assertion in "Silent Night" that Jesus Christ was the son God and the savior of mankind.
The Baptist Joint Committee, the National Association of Evangelicals and other Christian groups didn't have a problem with that commonsense directive. They co-signed the Joint Statement with the ACLU.
So did the American Jewish Congress, the American Muslim Council and the National Sikh Center.
These and other similar organizations were rightly concerned that rampaging hypersensitivity and fear of litigation was prompting public educators to avoid all references to religion to stay on the constitutional side of the line between teaching and preaching.
The ACLU took a lot of the blame for that fear and avoidance. After all, ACLU lawyers led the way in filing suit against those who put into action a belief that our public institutions ought to favor one faith over another.
The Joint Statement was meant to clarify the mainstream legal and social position and to reassure tremulous superintendents: You don't have to write Christ out of Christmas, you just have to keep it an educational rather than devotional context.
Ignorance is the enemy of Christmas--ignorance of the law and ignorance of the ACLU.
Social conservatives would have an ally in the civil libertarians if they wanted to mount a joint campaign to remind public educators of all they can do this time of year to teach children of the history, meaning, beauty and importance of the season.
But they'd rather have a whipping boy.
Each time they carry on like wounded martyrs over some perceived slight or clumsy prohibition by an uninformed bureaucrat, they spread the very fear that causes such incidents in the first place.
Who will save Christmas from them?
Originally posted by Bardock42
eah I know but really that is actually a good move why should any holidays be celebrated in school?
Why does this bug you so much? I mean seriously? Does this cause you physical discomfort? It's just a holiday, and school Christmas parties are just something to break up the day right before break, there are no religious connotations involved in a public school. Get a grip people.
I think Santa should be banned from schools and from product marketing, i find it ludicrous the was someone will pay extra for a product just because it has Santa or like wise on it.
Another point is that Santa has nothing to do with any religion he is mealy a marketing product/a lie to children, i take great satisfaction in the stupidity of parents who take there children to visit Santa in there local super store (this is drawing attention to the store, as i said mealy a marketing product) and expect the children to belief that it is the real thing then when they find out he is not real they are sad, true i don't give a s*it about the sadness of that child, in fact i find it amusing to see there very souls destroyed when they find out that they were living a lie but my point is still there big companies use Santa to attract children to buy/want there product.
And why is Santa an anagram of Satan???