Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Time is an imperfect concept, just like god.As for his "ever expanding wisdom", that was sarcasm.
God does not need to expand his wisdom, he has all wisdom. The Bible says that there is nothing new that has not been before. So nothing can be new to God I guess. He knows it all.
God exists beyond time. He is not affected by or dependend on it.
Originally posted by sonnet
God does not need to expand his wisdom, he has all wisdom. The Bible says that there is nothing new that has not been before. So nothing can be new to God I guess. He knows it all.God exists beyond time. He is not affected by or dependend on it.
Thank you for proving my point.
Originally posted by sonnet
God does not need to expand his wisdom, he has all wisdom. The Bible says that there is nothing new that has not been before. So nothing can be new to God I guess. He knows it all.God exists beyond time. He is not affected by or dependend on it.
Originally posted by Storm
Can god 'know' what it’ s like for god to play soccer? Some conceptions of gods in the past allowed for them to be able to play sports, but classic theism has always postulated a non-material, disembodied divinity. Such a god cannot possibly play soccer, an apparent contradiction to omniscience, especially since I am capable of knowing what it’ s like to play soccer. Any direct experiential knowledge of this sort would thus be problematic, at best, god can know what it’ s like for others to do these things.
God is a spiritual being. Soccer is not associated with any spiritual being be it God or just any other spirit/ghost. God gave us the ability to have emotions so I guess He is very much aware of all emotions that we could ever experience. According to the Bible God himself has showed various emotions towards us. He does not need to play soccer to know what we feel. The creator knows his creation.
Originally posted by sonnet
God is a spiritual being. Soccer is not associated with any spiritual being be it God or just any other spirit/ghost. God gave us the ability to have emotions so I guess He is very much aware of all emotions that we could ever experience. According to the Bible God himself has showed various emotions towards us. He does not need to play soccer to know what we feel. The creator knows his creation.
Philosophers and theologians have found themselves devising a number of other limitations upon the definition of omniscience in order to allow for many more things which god cannot do and know while retaining the characteristic of omniscience. It is argued that god’ s omniscience doesn’ t include procedural knowledge (knowing how to do things, like ride a bike) or personal knowledge (knowledge derived from personal experience, like 'knowing war'😉.
Omniscience has been whittled down bit by bit until there is very little left of the original concept. As more and more of it is removed in order to make it safe for logic, we arrive at a position where there seems little point in continuing to use the term at all. Is god all-knowing or just very knowing?
Originally posted by Storm......in order to make it safe for logic, we arrive .....
Logic, there lies the clue.Our LOGIC cannot understand God, his characteristics, or the things of the spiritual. To,try and make God a logical or mathematical project will only get us exactly where we are now - lost. It is a matter of trusting what God gave us in his written Word which was inspired by his Spirit. That is the only source of information of God we have that is true. All we want to know about God is in his Word but this is also not comprehensible for the mind but only the spirit. It is through reading God's word that out Spirit can learn about God and that we can understand about God.
If a library got blown up and ever page of every book accidently landed in the right place on top of each other you wouldn´t beleive it. The similar chances are that of a single cell "happening by accident." let alone a whole world with such a complicated eco system that even the slightest change would wipe out life on it.
If it wasn´t an accident then how did life start, logical conclusion, someone started it.
The earth is like a house in the middle of a desert, somone must have built it.