God or No God?

God has always been and will always be. Time is not limited in the direction of time (both ways). If God is everything, then God is also time. Time has always been and will always be.

still it has a beginning, just like the argument what was before the big bang, one can question the always"ness" of a god

Originally posted by finti
still it has a beginning, just like the argument what was before the big bang, one can question the always"ness" of a god

Maybe it's our limited understand of time....something we can't really fathom...at least I can't.......unless it's more like a dimensional loop kinda thing...but still it's hard to think about what started it all...what is the starting point...quite mind boggling.....I just might be our conception of what time is...we do look at as linear..

Maybe it's our limited understand of time....

Originally posted by debbiejo
Maybe it's our limited understand of time....something we can't really fathom...at least I can't.......unless it's more like a dimensional loop kinda thing...but still it's hard to think about what started it all...what is the starting point...quite mind boggling.....I just might be our conception of what time is...we do look at as linear..

Think about a ring. Where does the ring start?

Think about a ring. Where does the ring start?

Originally posted by finti
from scratch or the finished product

finished product, it's just a flowed model, but it helps me think about things that my little brain can't hold.

Originally posted by finti
or our limited understanding and knowledge of the cycluses of this universe

Yeah, maybe...We just don't know enough about it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Think about a ring. Where does the ring start?

I know what you're saying...but before it becomes a circle ring...maybe it started out as a dot and gradually expanded into vibrational/dimensional rings...but first what made the dot that expanded...was it condensed energy?...and where did that energy come from...but again..mind boggling...

I do know that everything operates on different frequencies and vibrational levels...everything does.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I know what you're saying...but before it becomes a circle ring...maybe it started out as a dot and gradually expanded into vibrational/dimensional rings...but first what made the dot that expanded...was it condensed energy?...and where did that energy come from...but again..mind boggling...

Thinking about a ring is limited. You can not take the analogy any further, it will not work. So, think about a endless sheet of paper outside of time. It goes in all directions and there is no time, it just is.

finished product, it's just a flowed model, but it helps me think about things that my little brain can't hold.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Thinking about a ring is limited. You can not take the analogy any further, it will not work. So, think about a endless sheet of paper outside of time. It goes in all directions and there is no time, it just is.

It's just beyond my comprehension...But like I've said before, I know there's some kinda force operating....like what I've studied about "The Law of attraction."....It's some creative process...I just don't know where the starting point is...maybe I need to do more reading...

Oh, don't tell Markie...he said in another thread that I read too much without thinking.....

Originally posted by finti
but that away dont let you see the entire picture of it

Can't... fit... it... all... in... this... little... brain... 😕

There is a place (here) where all things are known, if you go there (here) you can understand it, but it's like a reference book in the library, you can't take it with you.

Originally posted by debbiejo
It's just beyond my comprehension...But like I've said before, I know there's some kinda force operating....like what I've studied about "The Law of attraction."....It's some creative process...I just don't know where the starting point is...maybe I need to do more reading...

Oh, don't tell Markie...he said in another thread that I read too much without thinking.....

Maybe you should think about doing more reading.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can't... fit... it... all... in... this... little... brain... 😕

😆

I need 2 brains...maybe even 4....OH...well.....if I wouldn't of killed some brain cells maybe this one would do just fine.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Maybe you should think about doing more reading.

📖 I know how toooooooooooo

Makes me special........

THERE is a GOD. Im not just saying this cause im pathetic and i need to believe in a God but im saying this because ive felt and known him in my life. He has moved in wonderous ways for me. But i expect many of you to doubt it cause the Bible said it,"many will persecute you for believing, many will doubt Him..."

But i expect many of you to doubt it cause the Bible said it

Originally posted by b-ball_chick
THERE is a GOD. Im not just saying this cause im pathetic and i need to believe in a God but im saying this because ive felt and known him in my life. He has moved in wonderous ways for me. But i expect many of you to doubt it cause the Bible said it,"many will persecute you for believing, many will doubt Him..."

People believed in something before the Bible came along too.....I don't think they were persecuted though.....you don't need a book to tell that there is something...The only thing the Bible has done, just like the Koran...is cause wars, strife, and, prejudices...and superiority.

The key part people often ignore about the big bang theory or the evolution theory is the word theory, which means it hasn't been proven. A little known thing about Darwin (the biologist who founded the evolution theory) is that he proved his theory wrong before he died and told people that his first theory was pure hypothesis in the first place. National Geographic even ran a few articles giving evidence that both the big bang, evolution theory is wrong (and if you know what National Geographic is like you know that that's a hard thing to admit). One reason is that to create even a single protein (the building blocks of life) from scratch you would need a 100 mile high layer of amino acids covering the entire earth. If you want to go find out the facts about the big bang check out national geographic.com

Originally posted by Falconer
The key part people often ignore about the big bang theory or the evolution theory is the word theory, which means it hasn't been proven. A little known thing about Darwin (the biologist who founded the evolution theory) is that he proved his theory wrong before he died and told people that his first theory was pure hypothesis in the first place. National Geographic even ran a few articles giving evidence that both the big bang, evolution theory is wrong (and if you know what National Geographic is like you know that that's a hard thing to admit). One reason is that to create even a single protein (the building blocks of life) from scratch you would need a 100 mile high layer of amino acids covering the entire earth. If you want to go find out the facts about the big bang check out national geographic.com

Science is willing to admit when it is wrong (I'm not confirming what you said above). Religion will never admit to being wrong. The proof is; they don't call it creation theory. This is not because they can prove it; the reason is because they can't be wrong. So, when new information is found, Science changes, but religion does not.

I believe in God!!!!! 😇