God or No God?

Originally posted by finti
what I have a problem with is their claim that the non believers are the ones who needs to prove aspects about deities

effect enough to make you post in here though

Originally posted by finti
what I have a problem with is their claim that the non believers are the ones who needs to prove aspects about deities

Try not caring what they think; I don't. If someone is not ready for the level of knowledge that I have (or don't have), then why should I care what they think.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Not true...I read the whole chapters and cross reference them.....NO contradictions????...Well why is it that Paul said women should be silent in the church and have no authority, while in the OT...there were Priestess's?...There's one...Who knows better Paul or God?....Contradiction...yup

Originally posted by debbiejo
What is meant by Jesus was a Buddhist?

There has been lots of interesting research in the area of Buddhism and Jesus. Jesus' teachings seem to show a strong similarity with some Buddhist teaching. What is the reason for this?

Was Jesus a Buddhist or was Buddhist teaching influenced by Jesus' teaching? Or were they both of Israelite origin?

This is an interesting link, if anyone is open minded enough to read it...

http://www.tombofjesus.com/home.htm#

Thanks...I'll read through that. 🙂

I guess I really can't prove to you that God exists except that as you look around, there had to be a Creator because of the orderliness of the things we see. There is a void in each person that needs to be satisfied and I believe that God put that there. That void isn't satisfied until one admits that God exists.

Since you don't believe that God exists it sure wouldn't hurt if you just said, "God I don't believe you exist, but if you do, reveal yourself to me." It can't hurt you saying this because if God doesn't exist, you've got nothing to lose.

Originally posted by elroar
I guess I really can't prove to you that God exists except that as you look around, there had to be a Creator because of the orderliness of the things we see. There is a void in each person that needs to be satisfied and I believe that God put that there. That void isn't satisfied until one admits that God exists.

Since you don't believe that God exists it sure wouldn't hurt if you just said, "God I don't believe you exist, but if you do, reveal yourself to me." It can't hurt you saying this because if God doesn't exist, you've got nothing to lose.

But God does exist. It all comes down to one thing; what is God. Is God outside of you? I believe that, God being outside of you, or not with you, or you are not a part of God, is impossible. God is the sum of the whole that we are part of. We have always been part of God, and will always be part of God. You don't have to believe anything; although, belief is strong and can over come many things in life.

there had to be a Creator because of the orderliness of the things we see

Originally posted by finti
who says orderliness have to be specifically created

Order creates it's self; Chaos theory.

a big diffrence between that and it being created by a so called divine "Creator"

Originally posted by finti
a big diffrence between that and it being created by a so called divine "Creator"

I know, but what if that is God? Not a limited god, but an unlimited God.

if is a word of uncertainty, I dont believe in if`s

Originally posted by finti
if is a word of uncertainty, I dont believe in if`s

I was just using the word "if" to come across in a softer tone. I believe, when you look at the universes inner workings, what you see is the "hand of God".

I believe, when you look at the universes inner workings, what you see is the "hand of God".

We can only partially comprehend the notion of God's existence. To do so, we must use human concepts to speak of God: "without beginning or end"; "eternal"; "infinite", etc. The Bible says that He has always existed: " . . . even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God" (Psalm 90:2). And, "Your throne is established from of old; Thou art from everlasting" (Psalm 93:2). Quite simply, God has no beginning and no end. So, where did God come from? He didn't.

Also, physics has shown that time is a property that is the result of the existence of matter. Time exists when matter exists. Time has even been called the fourth dimension. But God is not matter. In fact, God created matter. He created the universe. So, time began when God created the universe. 💃

Originally posted by StIves
We can only partially comprehend the notion of God's existence. To do so, we must use human concepts to speak of God: "without beginning or end"; "eternal"; "infinite", etc. The Bible says that He has always existed: " . . . even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God" (Psalm 90:2). And, "Your throne is established from of old; Thou art from everlasting" (Psalm 93:2). Quite simply, God has no beginning and no end. So, where did God come from? He didn't.

Also, physics has shown that time is a property that is the result of the existence of matter. Time exists when matter exists. Time has even been called the fourth dimension. But God is not matter. In fact, God created matter. He created the universe. So, time began when God created the universe. 💃

In my opinion, you started out in the right direction, but then you made a statement that goes against what you started with. God cannot be understood, therefore, you don't know if God created matter. We don't "know" anything about God, God is beyond our understanding. Do not be upset, this is just my opinion.

you cannot say that there is a god just because there is order. just look at something like salt, if dissolved in water, then let the water dry up, the salt forms nice orderly salt crystals, and god had nothing to do with it. from what i can tell at least.

Originally posted by Imlistening
you cannot say that there is a god because there is order. just look at something like salt, if dissolved in water, then let the water dry up, the salt forms nice orderly salt crystals, and god had nothing to do with it. from what i can tell at least.

I understand what you are saying, but I look at it differently. The laws of nature are the workings of God, not the god of the bible, but the universe or nature which is alive. 😄

Originally posted by Imlistening
I just want some evidence that god exists.
Is there even any?
I just cant see my self relying on a feeling that im supposed to get by asking god in prayer or even by just sitting in church. feelings dont prove a damn thing.

Just by looking at the world we live in and the complexity of everything around us, then I think it requires more faith NOT to believe in God.

Im a christian. I know of people who cry out blaming God or questioning him. But at the end of the day who are we to question God?? if we assume God does exist and he is an omniscient, omnipotent, benevolant God then he surely has big plans, whereas all we humans manage to do is sit around and question or moan................

Just by looking at the world we live in and the complexity of everything around us, then I think it requires more faith NOT to believe in God.