God or No God?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😕 How could you possibly end up with that reading of what I wrote?

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How could you possibly not realize the implications of what you posted?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I am aware of the unknown. I know that the unknown is a thing because I know there are things I don't know. Because of this I can be afraid of it.

On the other hand if I do not have knowledge of something I cannot be afraid of it because I don't know it exists. Name one thing you have never heard of that you're scared of. Imagine an infant. Is the infant scared of werewolves? No, it has no idea that werewolves are a category of things that it is possible to be afraid of.

Because you typed that all out, me thinks you actually understood and comprehended the implications of what you had said.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
This is what I referred to as the "generic mugger". I cannot be afraid of the specific mugger because I have not imagined (arguably cannot) the specific mugger.

I am unsure how that actually addressed what I posted to what you posted.

And this is why I keep you on ignore.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
...Yes and you cannot be afraid of a thing you imagine until you imagine it. If you don't yet know that chairs exist it is impossible for you to be afraid of them...

The unknown includs the chair.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And this is why I keep you on ignore.

Because you pretend not to get a point then type out two paragraphs that clearly show you got my point (clearly, trolling)? And then you make an extremely non sequitur reply to another section of my post?

And THEN you indirectly threaten my life for completely wrong reasons?

* consistently tells people that they have them on ignore but frequently quotes them and responds to them*

Makes perfect sense. 😬

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The unknown includs the chair.

Are you seriously arguing that you can know things you don't know or did you have a stroke and forget what words mean?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Are you seriously arguing that you can know things you don't know or did you have a stroke and forget what words mean?

I said you can fear the unknown, and everything you don't know is included in the unknown, by definition.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I said you can fear the unknown, and everything you don't know is included in the unknown, by definition.

What you fear is "the unknown" either as its own thing or as shorthand for "ignorance". You aren't fearing any of the things you don't know about individually because that's impossible.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What you fear is "the unknown" either as its own thing or as shorthand for "ignorance". You aren't fearing any of the things you don't know about individually because that's impossible.

Unknown is just that, unknown. So, you cannot say it is something or not. When it comes to what people fear, and don't fear, nothing is impossible. It is very possible to fear an object you don't know.

Then we fundamentally disagree about what the phrase "fear of the unknown" means and your definition doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Then we fundamentally disagree about what the phrase "fear of the unknown" means and your definition doesn't make any sense.

You are trying to apply logic to a part of the mind that is not logical.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are trying to apply logic to a part of the mind that is not logical.

Its not a matter of acting or thinking logically (unless you're admitting to trolling).

I do not believe it is possible to have an opinion on a thing you do not know exists. For some reason you've decided you do. Just as a test, to see which of us is right, give me an opinion on something that you've never thought of.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Its not a matter of acting or thinking logically (unless you're admitting to trolling).

I do not believe it is possible to have an opinion on a thing you do not know exists. For some reason you've decided you do. Just as a test, to see which of us is right, give me an opinion on something that you do not know of at all.

I don't fear the unknown. However, it is possible to fear the unknown.

A person who fears all unknown would most likely be in a mental hospital.

You want me to specify something that is unknown? As soon as I do, it will no longer be unknown.

I think we are way off topic.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You want me to specify something that is unknown? As soon as I do, it will no longer be unknown.

Exactly, which is why you can't fear any specific thing you don't know.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Exactly, which is why you can't fear any specific thing you don't know.

That would be logical, but fear is not logical. In an extreme case, any unknown would be feared. If you could list all unknown, they would all be feared.

Let me put it in a different way: is infinity a number?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Let me put it in a different way: is infinity a number?

One word: apeirophobia.

Enjoy.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That would be logical, but fear is not logical. In an extreme case, any unknown would be feared. If you could list all unknown, they would all be feared.

The specifics are not feared until they're listed.

You seem to be deliberately missing my point that "unknown" is a thing you can be scared of, which is what the phrase "fear of the unknown" refers to. A person can be afraid of the unknown (the dark alley) and then not be afraid of the actual thing they don't know (it turns out to be cake rather than a mugger hiding in the shadows).

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Let me put it in a different way: is infinity a number?

That's a rather contentious subject.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The specifics are not feared until they're listed.

You seem to be deliberately missing my point that "unknown" is a thing you can be scared of, which is what the phrase "fear of the unknown" refers to. A person can be afraid of the unknown (the dark alley) and then not be afraid of the actual thing they don't know (it turns out to be cake rather than a mugger hiding in the shadows).

That's a rather contentious subject.

Humans can imagine the unknown as a thing, and they can then have a fear of that thing. What comprises the unknown is not involved. You may find that once the unknown is known that fear goes away, or not, but that is a different issue.

I haven't seen any reality warping beings lately so im going to say no 😐

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
I haven't seen any reality warping beings lately so im going to say no 😐

Me nether...

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
I haven't seen any reality warping beings lately so im going to say no 😐

I have. Just watched a clip, yesterday, that showed that NBC clearly distorted reality to fit an anti-Zimmerman agenda.

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