Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Look, Lucas has made it plainly clear, it's Anakin.
Does anyone else think that Lucas confirming things takes away some of the fun? Speculating and all that seems way more fun that being told something is a certain way. Not that I mind you telling me JP, don't take that the wrong way, I'm just saying that I think it'd be better if he didn't confirm so much and left more for us to speculate.
bloody hell am sick of this topic!!!!
Anakin IS the chosen one!
Anakin was the first ever jedi to go to the dark side and come back to the light side. Also he wiped out the sith which means there can be no more sith EVER! maybe Dark Jedi but not sith. also he got rid of the old stubborn way of the jedi n luke created the new strong jedi order anakin cleared the path so the new jedi order cud grow. i think the dark side is the inbalace only when the force is completely light is when its in Balance
Thats wat i think anyway
Originally posted by ArthasKnight
Does anyone else think that Lucas confirming things takes away some of the fun? Speculating and all that seems way more fun that being told something is a certain way. Not that I mind you telling me JP, don't take that the wrong way, I'm just saying that I think it'd be better if he didn't confirm so much and left more for us to speculate.
Actually no, as there is enough stuff being debated to death already. 😉
Originally posted by mtryder
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does being being the Chosen one say anything about him being a fair, balanced, or even particularly good person? Being the Chosen one, in my eyes, doesn't mean anything at all, except that he was chosen to bring balance to the force, by killing Sidious. His actions before then are completely irrelevant as far as the Prophecy goes. All that matters is that he completes his part by restoring the balance.
This is bang on the point. Anakin completed his destiny as the Chosen One; this does not make everything he did right- he just did what he could do.
The entire point is that the Jedi are not 100% sure about how the Chosen One will work, and as it is, it all goes horribly wrong. But it didn't HAVE to go horribly wrong, it just would have been a far more boring story if it didn't.
So sorry if you do not like it, Dart, or think it is stupid- but that is the way it is. There is NO literal Jedi/Sith balance. Destroying the Jedi had NOTHING to do with bringing balance- simply him becoming evil, and the imbalance becoming worse. The Sith ARE the imbalance. Destroying them- both Sidious AND himself- removes that imbalance.
End of story with any luck for the last time.
Originally posted by theshakl
because...if not then he is a bad chosen one because he is part of the reason that sidious took over...if it wasn't for anakin...Sidious would not have taken over... and it would seem stupid for the prophecy guy to fullfill a prophecy after he was the cause of some of it. So there has to be a reason for him being part of the Jedi's extintion.
Well, it is a prophecy after all. It didn't say how or when this would happen, but it happens nonetheless. Anakin DOES bring balance to the Force, even if it means killing everyone and himself in the end.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
The Sith ARE the imbalance.
Ah, see (if you're right that is) then this certainly clears things up. I was never really sure what it meant to bring the Force into balance. I figured it meant the same number of good and bad guys. That's why the end of ROTJ never made sense to me 'cause I'm like "Hey, there's one good guy and no baddies...."
So to bring the Force into balance, just the Sith had to be destroyed, not all the Jedi?
the reason i think it was just the sith that had to be killed is b/c the force is something that i there for good not evil. the sith have just distorted and perverted it.true balance of the force is returning it to its rightful place of letting it control flow through all living things and what not without trying to bend it to your will entirely.
i also have a question about the nature of sith. in KOTOR it says that the sith species are extinct. they were a species who eventually intermarried with exiled jedi and became extinct. the sith of today are simply followers of an idea. is this canon or just EU stuff. if so what are the ideals if not then what makes you a sith just being evil?
so when they brought anikan in front of the council they said that his future was 'clouded.' when things start going to shit by the time of ROTS do you think that yoda and some of the jedi know that their deaths are something that has to happen? yoda could start to see by ROTS that ani's future does have good in it, but is confused by what he is doing to the jedi. this could be the reason why he hides on deg. because he wants to see the outcome of vader. he feels that he is somehow still relevant to the outcome of things but doesnt know how or why. He starts to trust in qui gons prediction (maybe because he has a small scene with his ghost or something) he knows he must do one last thing before he dies but doesnt know what it is, so he hides and waits for it to come to him on deg.
what do you think?
Yep Space Opera!
Yes yoda knows more than he lets on, those little bits in AOTC like when padme falls out off the ship and anakin and obi are arguing and he has that look on his face and of course the tusken bit...I think he knows that ani is going to fall but that isnt the end of the jedi... and like you said there is also the possible qui-gon force ghost in ROTS