Is a crime ever really justified?

In a totalitarian society anything, even a thought, is a crime. Breaking the McPherson report edicts (which say that someone can be arrested for voicing subversive sentiments within their OWN homes) is a crime. Should the thought count? Is it bad or perhaps unnatural to think wishfully? If not, then crime can indeed be justified. Anyone who has subversive thoughts are criminals and this can even apply to toddlers nowadays.

Silver Tears' questions are based on an incomplete premise however:

I would like to be selective about how I steal. If I were starving, I would by preference only steal off someone who deserved to lose. I expect that I would steal anyhow if I were that desperate.

Would I kill the murderer under those circs - at the very least. I would like to be able to rend their soul in such a circumstance.

Gardening taken for granted - I probably would stretch that pay roll thing. It's exactly the same as the stealing if starving question.

Originally posted by silver_tears
The question is is there ever a reason strong enough to commit a crime?

For example, say you were starving and the only way for you to eat is to steal the food would you?

Or if someone dear to you was murdered and you had a chance to kill the murderer, who has never done anything bad in his life before this, without anyone knowing about it other than you, would you?

Or if you were working for a company that made billions of dollars and you worked in their pay roll department, and you for example were very poor, and barely getting by, and you or your wife were expecting a baby soon, would you take a little extra from the company?

The questions really is, if you had the chance and had a reason, like life or death situations, for the crime, do you think it would be right to commit it in the end?

This is an interesting thread. I took a so called "honesty test" online awhile ago. I got something like 70%... Know why? Because there were a lot of questions like: "You, and two women named Tia and Mia are refugees who have recently fled the country. Tia is expecting a baby soon, is a widow, and barely manages to get by on her salary as a maid. Recently, she has been stealing small amounts of money from her employer, a rich lawyer. You don't want her to steal, but if you tell the authorities, she could be deported. What do you do?"

I answered questions like that ^ stuff like "say nothing". Apparently, that's dishonest. I don't think that's true--backing up a friend, family member, or even yourself when they're in need isn't dishonest. If this Tia's really your friend, why would you get her deported?! Anyways...

Yes, I'd steal food if I was starving and absolutely had to. I would kill a person out of self-defense, though not to get revenge. The pay roll one.. That's tough.

Originally posted by silver_tears
Or if someone dear to you was murdered and you had a chance to kill the murderer, who has never done anything bad in his life before this, without anyone knowing about it other than you, would you?

Would you not be afraid of the ultimate judgement though?
I'm against revenge, however in the heat of the moment you would be incapable of intelligent thought I guess 😬

Originally posted by silver_tears
Would you not be afraid of the ultimate judgement though?