How would you like the Yoda/Sidious duel to end?

Started by Red Superfly5 pages

Well, one of the main reasons for the prequels is to tell the story of Vader and Palpatine becoming who they are.

It would make sense for Lucas to show us all exactly why nobody likes the idea of facing Vaders or The Emperors wrath.

I think we'll see both Vader and Sidious show everyone who's boss. Sidious will destroy Yoda.

Obviously Sidious fights Yoda for a reason - to take out his biggest threat to his rule. Only Sidious can do it. He obviously thinks Yoda is dead - why else would he think all is well and they are home safe? The only concern Sidious has is about Luke Skywalker - so it's obvious he shows no worries about Yoda - he thinks he killed him 20 + years ago. (I am of course going by logic - I know Lucas is prone to not doing the same)

This will also establish Palpatine as a guy you do not screw with. He took out the most powerful Jedi at the time supposedly.

I'm more concerned about Vader's presence. Palpatine is coverred - he's gonna look like the biggest ass kicker when he beats down Yoda.

What about Vader? It troubles me even further that Lucas seems adamant that mech-Vader is a crippled man, rather than an upgrade. If human-Vader can't beat Obi-Wan - then how does suited Vader make himself look legit? The best way would be to have Vader show his true rage. The best way would be for Vader to take out his vengence on whatever Jedi he can find, fully suited, red saber in hand. It would not only look amazing, but it would solidify mech Vader as the walking demon we have all grown to respect.

Does Palpatine really think Yoda's dead? How does Yoda fake his death and escape from Sidious if he gets destroyed? Does he sense Bail Organa coming and jumps out a window, landing in Bail's speeder?

I do like the idea of a stalemate, though.....

Well, by RoTJ, Yoda seems pretty crippled. I realize that he was a muppet, but still. That guy could barely move- he was certainly doing no backflips. So, I agree that Palpatin likely thinks that he killed Yoda, but perhaps he just severely crippled him and realizes that that is enough?

Originally posted by Cipher
Does Palpatine really think Yoda's dead? How does Yoda fake his death and escape from Sidious if he gets destroyed? Does he sense Bail Organa coming and jumps out a window, landing in Bail's speeder?

I do like the idea of a stalemate, though.....

I think the fact that Yoda gets flung out of a window would be pretty conclusive 'evidence' that he died.

It's all the more likely that that is the sole reason for Yoda being thrown out of a window. To Palpatine, he killed him, no one would survive that, and yet, he managed to escape, which Sidious wouldn't know about.

The whole point of Sidious confronting Yoda is to destroy him. If Sidious wasn't positive he was dead, then surely he would keep on hunting him down.

Why else would Yoda get thrown out of a window? Sure it looks cool but there's obviously a reason for it.

And a stalemate would suck. I think it would be cool if they really played up the "dark side is stronger" aspect by actually showing HOW much better it is, and why exactly so many have fallen. It would tie in with Yoda's "No, no....." line where he quickly answers Luke about which side was stronger. He was quick off the mark to tell Luke that the dark side wasn't stronger, only more seductive - again it would tie in because Yoda is worried that if Luke knew the truth, about his father and the power of the dark side, Luke would follow his father.

Re: How would you like the Yoda/Sidious duel to end?

Originally posted by Y-chromo kid
Funnily enough, I'm looking forward to this more than the Anakin/Obi duel. I can't help noticing that more than a few people want to see Yoda thrashed (I'm not one of them). I hope to see an awesome display of darkside power but with the duel ending in a stalemate. Yoda should flee with his Master of the Lightside credentials still intact, but having been outmanouvered by some devious, underhand, unprincipled Sith tactic (the summoning of a few hundred clonetroopers by Sids perhaps) I think something along these lines would have to happen otherwise an unstoppable Sids would make what hapens in the R.O.T.J look ridiculous. I'm one of those people who quite enjoys seeing the bad guy win (perverse but a breath of fresh air) Not however, Ladies and gentlemen, where Star Wars is concerned. Noble defeat? Certainly. Utter humiliation? No thanks. Perhaps we should have a vote on this: who should be slapped down - Yoda or Sids? Or maybe the happy medium... a stalemate. Your thoughts please.

How sould it end? QUICKLY!!!!!

Originally posted by darth eddie
the jedi don't use force lightning because its only use is to kill and destroy and as we all know death/destruction are frowned upon by the jedi order.

Really? It may be frowned apon by the jedi order, but don't we see Luke Skywalker, the JEDI who he proclaims himself to be, using grip on one of the palace guards in Return of the Jedi?

I do not think any aspect of the force is good, or evil. It is how you use it and for what purpose that makes its use good or evil.

I'm sure Yoda is hobbled as a result of this fight (although he looks OK on the Tantive 4), but as far as "evidence" that he's dead......

What does Palpatine sense? Yoda getting farther away, which he assumes is the fall? Does he not bother to check because of his arrogance?

The Imperials operate under the assumption that Yoda and Obi-Wan are likely deceased.

Well, based on the pics we've seen of Yoda nad Obi-Wan after their duels, Yoda seems okay. I like the idea of Yoda being in a sense, crippled. I think if Sidious can only be destroyed by Anakin (Chosen One and all) Yoda should get in a great fight, then see some true darkside as Sidious whoops him.

Originally posted by Cipher
I'm sure Yoda is hobbled as a result of this fight (although he looks OK on the Tantive 4), but as far as "evidence" that he's dead......
What does Palpatine sense? Yoda getting farther away, which he assumes is the fall? Does he not bother to check because of his arrogance?
The Imperials operate under the assumption that Yoda and Obi-Wan are likely deceased.

Actually, I think they operate under the impression that Obi-Wan is the sole survivor or one of the very few Jedi that survived.

Obviously, they think Yoda is dead. I'm assuming Palpatines over-confidence is the reason here (Which would tie in excellently with Luke's ROTJ quote: "Your over-confidence is your weakness" - I'm all for Palps being an overly arrogant Sith because it actually proves how wise Luke has become in ROTJ, this would add to the series imo).

However, going by Tarkins remark in Ep 4 "Surely he must be dead by now" means that the Empire assume Obi-Wan has died of old age - so they also know he survived.

Also, by Tarkin's own words : "The Jedi are all but extinct, you my friend are all that's left of their religion" means that the Empire assume only Obi-Wan managed to get away. Yoda was "killed" by Palpatine and the other Jedi were seen to by Vader. Obviously they were mistaken as Obi-Wan was hiding along with Yoda.

The fact that neither Vader or Palpatine mention Yoda in the OT means that they are absolutely convinced he is a thing of the past.

I think if you look hard enough through the past five movies, there is only one logical conclusion to the Palps and Yoda fight - Palps owns all.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red Superfly
[B]I think the fact that Yoda gets flung out of a window would be pretty conclusive 'evidence' that he died.

so palpatine throws two(doin the trick with one and not the other) jedi out of windows in ep3 to their death.
this makes vader throwing palps down that shaft in jedi all the more sweeter..
"see......how do u like it!!!"

Originally posted by cylob49
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red Superfly
[B]I think the fact that Yoda gets flung out of a window would be pretty conclusive 'evidence' that he died.

so palpatine throws two(doin the trick with one and not the other) jedi out of windows in ep3 to their death.
this makes vader throwing palps down that shaft in jedi all the more sweeter..
"see......how do u like it!!!"

Funny - but I don't think Windu will be thrown out a window like Yoda.

Mace was pretty much set up to be the "Jedi that makes Vader look like an ass kicker" - because Anakin will slay him.

Anakin can't slay Yoda or Obi-Wan, and Dooku shouldn't count (lol - count) really. Vader should play a massive role in taking down the second-in-command.

Sidious cuts of yoda's legs.And yoda keeps saying: have mercy! have mercy!... And then Sidious uses force lightning to finish him off.Then he cuts off yoda's head and gives it to Anakin.After wich Anakin throws it in a trash can.

yes. i love it so much this story.....i love snow.

Originally posted by Maverick2364
Really? It may be frowned apon by the jedi order, but don't we see Luke Skywalker, the JEDI who he proclaims himself to be, using grip on one of the palace guards in Return of the Jedi?

I never was sure if Luke killed the guards or just chocked them untill they passed out so they wouldnt make any noise. if he made them pass out i think the jedi would let it slide. if he killed them thats a big no no but then again who would punish him for it?

Originally posted by darth eddie
I never was sure if Luke killed the guards or just chocked them untill they passed out so they wouldnt make any noise. if he made them pass out i think the jedi would let it slide. if he killed them thats a big no no but then again who would punish him for it?

He still used a dark side ability.

yeah,he did us the force choke so that could only mean one thing...... luke is not a jedi but the new lord of the sith. oh i feel betrayed.

No, it means that jedis can use dark powers too.

I was just joking. but i thought the question was if they were supposed to not if they had the ability to.

I want it to be pretty even, but with some sort of Jedi deaths that Yoda senses that keeps him distracted, or maybe some dirty tactic by Sidious. because I want Yoda and Sidious to be about even