this would be an f'n war. i'd say hulk 6/10. i wonder at something though - draco, in ww 175, doesn't ww claim that supes can kill her with something like 3 punches? she even admits that he could break her bracelets. in some other issue (i think it was an alternate world ww) didn't supes SHATTER the bracelets? those same bracelets that repelled the attack of a full pantheon of gods? around the same time, i think bizarro snapped the lasso.
not sure if these feats are viewed as canon, but if supes and bizarro are capable of breaking her weapons, hulk would be likewise capable after a time.
ww's advantage in this is her fighting skill and speed. just not sure she could do enough damage fast enough to put him down. i'd thought she might be able to choke him out, but i don't know . . .
Originally posted by kgkg
that just show Namor is a badass.And when did Namor beat Hulk ( not underwater)
Well Namor has never really beat Hulk on land before. He had a nice battle with Dark Hulk before. And a few times in the Defenders series, they never finished their battles. Sparring buddies is what i call it.
Originally posted by leonidas
this would be an f'n war. i'd say hulk 6/10.
More like WW 6/10.
Originally posted by leonidas
i wonder at something though - draco, in ww 175, doesn't ww claim that supes can kill her with something like 3 punches?
That terrible claim was disputed in her recent fight with Superman. She took a uber-haymaker from Superman on the outer edge of the Sun. She was hit so hard she was thrown from the Sun all the way back to Wyoming at faster than lightspeeds since the duration of the entire fight was only just two mins.
And a few seconds later she up and fighting again.
Originally posted by leonidas
she even admits that he could break her bracelets.
Could. But very very unlikely. It took Chronos, DC's Living Tribunal, to actually DENT the material it was made from.
Originally posted by leonidas
in some other issue (i think it was an alternate world ww) didn't supes SHATTER the bracelets?
That was crap writing. Jeph Loeb has no respect for continuity. Like Batman actually hitting Darkseid or Diana's bracelets actually reflecting the Omega Effect when they should have gone AROUND her. Here's a tip: NEVER use Superman/Batman comics as canon. All of his stories have no real validity. Especially that bullcrap Mongul/Shiva fight. 😘
It took Chronos alot of his energy to DENT the bracelets. You think a short-range punch can shatter them? Please.
Originally posted by leonidas
those same bracelets that repelled the attack of a full pantheon of gods?
Yep. And then some.
Originally posted by leonidas
around the same time, i think bizarro snapped the lasso [B]
It was Elseworlds. Diana never met Superman and Batman in that fashion. Her first appearance outside Themyscira was during a JLA battle featuring some hell demon dogs. Superman, Batman, and a few others met her for the first time.
Diana never had an Invisible Plane at that time.
Artemis was not a teenager.
The story was crap.
Originally posted by leonidas
[B]not sure if these feats are viewed as canon, [B]
It's not. It should be rather obvious.
Originally posted by leonidas
[B]but if supes and bizarro are capable of breaking her weapons, [B]
They're not. Not even Chronos, Order or even the Spectre have managed to break those dastardly things.
Originally posted by leonidas
[B]hulk would be likewise capable after a time. [B]
The bracelets? A VERY slight maybe....if Hulk is enraged for several million years.
The lasso? Absolutely not. It would be breaking Truth itself. Hulk isn't God.
Originally posted by leonidas
[B]ww's advantage in this is her fighting skill and speed[B]
And her magic. And her weapons. And the Godwave. And the Lansinarian technology....
Originally posted by leonidas
[B]just not sure she could do enough damage fast enough to put him down.
Sure she can. Alot of damage.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd thought she might be able to choke him out, but i don't know . . .
That may work. I doubt it though.
A quick win would be the Medousa Head.
Originally posted by Draco69
Wonder Woman IS stronger than the Hulk at base level and somewhat beyond.And how many times has Hulk had his ass kicked by Namor? Once and that was under water.😄
Wonder woman and hulk are the same at base strength class 100+ , that's the grey hulk who's strength is at 75 class ,but the hulk can increase his at a high rate where wonderwoman can't. Wonderwoman got her a$$ slamed by doomsday, doomsday and hulk are about the same in strength doomsday a little bit stronger. If wonderwoman fights smart she has a chance but if she trades blow for blow with the hulk she will get killed.
fair enough draco. i thought the bizarro thing was out of continuity.
and i actually broke out of retirement and picked up that sacrifice story arc. quite a war between diana and supes. she might hold him in the lasso, but i do wonder what good it would do. enraged hulk isn't gonna be controlled, i don't think and in hulk we're talking about a character who has taken some of the most brutally damaging attacks around. (glads vision burned a hole through him, wolvie's claws carve him up, that speedster - what the hell's his name . . .?? - with the adamantium blades literally sliced his stomach open and hulk had to hold his insides in with his HANDS and while the wound healed around his hands which were still in his stomach!)
ww is tough no doubt, and after your info, i'll revise my pick to 5/10. damn, this is a close one . . .
Originally posted by the Darkone
Wonder woman and hulk are the same at base strength class 100+ , that's the grey hulk who's strength is at 75 class ,but the hulk can increase his at a high rate where wonderwoman can't. Wonderwoman got her a$$ slamed by doomsday, doomsday and hulk are about the same in strength doomsday a little bit stronger. If wonderwoman fights smart she has a chance but if she trades blow for blow with the hulk she will get killed.
Why do Marvelites equate Doomsday and the Hulk? They are NOTHING alike...except for ugliness. 😮💨
And when Diana fought Doomsday she was LESS THAN HALF her power.
Originally posted by leonidasand i actually broke out of retirement and picked up that sacrifice story arc. quite a war between diana and supes. she might hold him in the lasso, but i do wonder what good it would do. enraged hulk isn't gonna be controlled, i don't think and in hulk we're talking about a character who has taken some of the most brutally damaging attacks around. (glads vision burned a hole through him, wolvie's claws carve him up, that speedster - what the hell's his name . . .?? - with the adamantium blades literally sliced his stomach open and hulk had to hold his insides in with his HANDS and while the wound healed around his hands which were still in his stomach!)
ww is tough no doubt, and after your info, i'll revise my pick to 5/10. damn, this is a close one . . .
I have no idea what effect the lasso would have on Banner. It MIGHT revert him back to human since it's his true form. And the battle would be that much easier for WW.
Don't know though.
Hulk wins.
Someone said that they were equal in stregnth, durability etc...
I'll give you that...until ww hits hulk. One hit, and hulk gets angrier, and thus his strength and durability rise. Another hit from ww does the same and so on.
The only logical and non-fanboy opinionated way ww could win would be to end the fight in a few minutes, because much longer than that and hulk's abilities dwarf diana's.
Originally posted by Draco69
Why do Marvelites equate Doomsday and the Hulk? They are NOTHING alike...except for ugliness. 😮💨And when Diana fought Doomsday she was LESS THAN HALF her power.
Do you not think that Doomsday would whoop WW's ass Draco? Even with her regular full power?
Supes can barely beat him. Ohh...not current Doomsday either.
Has the whole world gone mad? Superman in my opinion can just about handle the Hulk (debatable) - what makes you think WW is going to fare better? WW's powers do NOT increase the more she fights - she will eventually tire, her invunerability is nowhere near on par with the Hulk who will get stronger, more invunerable, more durable, more stamina - nearly every single physical attribute will be increased indefinatley. WW stands no chance.
P.S. The Hulk has broken the pit that held the Flame of Life. What makes you think he wouldnt be able to do the same to WW's lasso?
LOL
"Why do Marvelites equate Doomsday and the Hulk? They are NOTHING alike...except for ugliness"
Doomsday its nothing more than a poor Hulks wannabe. And i say this by liking Jurgens writting style.
"And when Diana fought Doomsday she was LESS THAN HALF her power"
You mean the fight she and Champion had during Byrne`s run?