i dont think juggernaught is a very well thought out character,he is a two dimentional personality he was made to be more of the "strong but dumb" guy for the xmen to fight when the writers dont have anything else to come up with....i mean...wtf is up with the shield and the countless "oh, he forgot" this and that from the writers???
with a little work juggie could be the greatest villian on earth...or hero..id prefer him to be neither...just a guy who does his own thing...while kicking hulk and magnetos ass!!
I'm terribly sorry but I didn't feel like reading past the first 1/6 of this thread, it's got to much ignorance about juggernaut flowing through it and I'll trust talon to take care of it, he seems ot know his stuff ACCEPT(up to the point I read):
Juggernauts armor ISN'T METAL. It's a mystical fiber made of an unknown material. Mags can't manipulate it.
If you count removal as a win, mags just takes 3 tons of metal, wraps it around Juggs, and tosses it into space, and he wins unless juggs put his "Unstoppable" Mack on real quick and ancors himself. I never count removal as a win though, cause it's BS.
I actually think this is a MUCH harder fight for Magneto than Hulk, because Juggy's power is more mystical in nature and largely defies the law of physics that Magneto rules over.
That said, since Juggy has shown himself to be vulnerable to internal or micro-manipulation, such as at the hands of telepaths and Nimrod, Magneto would simply do the following:
Distract Juggernaut with some random metal-throwing attacks. Juggernaut smashes through it and talks trash.
Magneto sends a chunk of metal in a pincer form toward Juggy from behind, which lifts Juggy's helmet off. If ANGEL has the strength to do it, it's child's play for Magneto.
Magneto then uses his control of electrical impulses to simulate the effects of telepathy on Juggy (which Mags has done before), knocking him out instantly.
Magneto then buries Juggernaut under tons and tons of metal, then launches the whole mass into orbit.
Magneto goes to Starbucks and drinks a latte.
Harder than Hulk, not impossible.
Originally posted by demigawd
Magneto then uses his control of electrical impulses to simulate the effects of telepathy on Juggy (which Mags has done before), knocking him out instantly.
This part made me laugh. Not because I don't think it could work. Just that I can simulate the effects of telekinesis by picking something up with my hands. Or simulate the effect of an optic blast with a shotgun.
"see the bolts comming out of prof. x's head?? they are called psionics. not physical."
I swear Angel........ANGEL, just flew in when Juggernaut wasn't looking and lifted his helmet off with about zero trouble.
Juggernaut: Raaaaaar I'm Juggernaut. Invincible and unstoppable and no one can stop me even though coincidentally no one has actually tried to stop my movement raaaaaaaar. Haha Chuck you can't psionically attack me coz of my Fisher Price helmet raaaaar.
*Angel flies in, lifts helmet off as if it were a baseball cap*
Juggernaut: Raaaaarrr, bad technique...Who planned this? That's not supposed to happen?! Greee where's Chuck Austen? I bet we could just pin the blame on him or whoever wrote thi.....
Prof X: Shut it.
*Blasts him*
This is the irresistable, unstoppable force. Angel clearly didn't think so. He clearly thought there were ways to prove otherwise. Did so too.
Magneto would recycle the man. Not easily, by far. But he would.
-AC
"i never understood why he doesnt get adamantium bolts and mount that ***** of a helmet on there."
In keeping with the theme, he isn't exactly the most durable screw in the toolbox is he? Mentally.
Might have something to do with the faaaact that he thinks nobody is ever gonna get near him. Only someone who thinks they are unstoppable would think tha.....oh wait.
-AC