Why did Luke win over Vader in Ep6?

Jesus Christ.

Anakin was the chosen one. Luke couldn't do a damn thing, either could Leia.

All Luke was capable of doing was reminding Vader that he was once Anakin. His pleas while dying was enough for Vader to reolize he once loved, not hated.

true...
luke or leia choosen ones??? nope
remember ep1: he is the one who will bring balance to the force
he destroyed the jedi order, because there were too many good jedis and too few sith
then luke had to build up a new order, but the galaxy was in balance- that is

That's wrong, I am afraid.

Anakin is indeed the Chosen One but destroying the Jedi has nothing to do with bringing balance to the Force; this has always been a very odd idea that some people hold.

As GL has made clear, it is the SITH who unbalance the Force. It is the destructiion of the Sith that restored the Balance.

But the corruption of Anakin meant that he failed, at first, in his destiny and wiped out the Jedi first.

Luke pulled off a blinder by allowing Anakin, as GL put it, to 'reflect on his life' and destroy the Emperor.

If Anakin had wiped out the Sith without destroying the Jedi, then balance would have been created with far fewer problems. But the story would have been far less interesting.

I've never understood the view that the Jedi had to be wiped out to restore balance; it's a very over-literal interpretation of the word. But are we meant to think that Luke will now create an equal amount of dark side and light side Jedi? Of course not!

The Light Side brings balance, the dark side destroys it. Only the evil Sith abuse the Force so. It is only they wo create the imbalance.

I agree with Ush.

Does that mean that after Anakin there could never again be Sith? Since he is the Choosen One and its his destiny to rid the galaxy of the Sith, then what happens when he is gone and another Sith comes around? The whole prophecy thing seems shady to me.

Well, the Prophecy simply speaks of this specifc time when the Force will be unbalanced.

Anything that happens after that is someone else's problem. But it is not as if Anakin removed all the evil from the Universe!

thats why i believe the EU is bull shit.

the chosen one destroy the last sith lord and then there is balance to the force
there are no resurrected emperors and other sith apprentices left alive. the prophecy may speak only for "the one who will bring balance to the force" then if the prophecy comes true, anakin should be the one who destroys the last sith. there are no more eu´s stupid sith apprentices and resurrected emperors after anakin´s death. coz then the prophecy would be pointless.

Well, thats my point. Once Anakin is gone what happens when a new Sith comes around? I'm not referring to ressurected Emperors or anything like that, but what if another Count Dooku were to come along? Would they take over everything without any interferance since the Choosen One is dead?

Not necessarily. But they might. Who knows what will come in the future?

You don't NEED a Chosen One to beat the Sith in all instances, you know. This whole story is a specific case.

but the "specific time " you talk about would have to be rather a long time. because then i dont get the whole point of the big prophecy if its not going to last. it would be like there never was this chosen one who brings balance to the force.

and anyway you say there is balance in the force when the sith are gone because they´re the ones who disbalance the force. how would anakin bring balance to the force if there is still xizor mara jade and a resurrected emperor?

thats why most of EU doesn´t match with many purposes and meanings of starwars.

Well, I'm not exactly a huge EU person.

But it is the principle of the thing. It's entirely possible that a thousnad years later the balance will slip again. Like I say, this is hardly the defeat of all evil!

So is the next Jedi who whipes out the new Sith that comes along also the Choosen One since they restored the balance?

Errr... no. Why would you think that? What is balanced can become unbalanced again, of course. I doubt there will be a new Chosen One for every time that happens!

I know what you are saying and I kind of agree. Anakin Skywalker is the Choosen One as described in the prophecy. But the way Lucas talks about it, it seems as if there can be no other Sith after Anakin dies cause that would bring back the unbalanced galaxy that Anakin had balanced.

agree with jedioasis, i do.

I doubt that is MEANT to be the case. Not in the fullness of time, anyway.

Anakin is the chosen one, because it is he who defeats Darth Sideous. Luke isn't powerful enough to waste the emperor, his role is to redeem his father. A very cool story if you think about it, because if Anakin had followed Jedi code and remained celibate, then the Emperor would never have been defeated. Anakin HAD to impregnate Padme, he had to turn to the dark side to "infiltrate" Palpatine's graces and earn his trust, without being so reckless and impulsive, Anakin would never have brought balance to the force.

That is speculation. I don't think we currently have any reason to think that he could not just have done it anyway, if he had not fallen along the way.

It's not speculation, it's what happened. It's the story.

You're the one speculating when you say that Anakin could have destroyed the Sith without falling to the dark side. That didn't happen and is thus speculation. Get it?

The interesting part I think is that only this "choosen one" would be powerful enough to destroy the Sith. But perhaps Anakin's problems arise because of his power. Is it because of his tremendous power that he cannot control his emotions, that he feels Obi-Wan is stunting his growth.? And because of his power, Palpatine takes interest in him and uses his power to turn him to the dark side...but could Anakin have destroyed Palpatine outright?

Perhaps the question should be, are ANY jedi powerful enough to detect Palpatine's use of the dark side of the force? It seems that he is so powerful that not even Yoda can sense what he truly is, and certainly Anakin cannot. The only way to fight his "insidiousness" is with an insidious strategy, and unknowingly, Anakin does this by becoming Palpatine's apprentice. It is only by earning Palpatine's trust that Anakin is able to destroy him, and the ONLY way to earn his trust is to actually turn to the dark side. Thus, it is essential that Luke redeem his father, and it is essential that Anakin have offspring.

Don't be silly; you are being speculative, and I am merely saying so. Just because the film happened the way it did does not mean that was the only way it could happen; unless you can prove that from what was seen in the film it is purely speculation.

Unless it is specifally said that Palpatine could ONLY be defeated by Anakin turning to the dark side, that is PURE speculation. It also detracts from the drama of Anakin's fall; it's not even remotely tragic if it was actually necessary.