Thor, Wolverine, and Hulk vs. Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman

Originally posted by -Pr-
semantics.

he moved more than a trillion tons. just because you don't like it doesn't invalidate it.

also, pulling can be harder than pushinig.

that's a straight up lie, dude.

So you also think that the martian can lift 100 trillion tons as well since he has aided in moving the moon with flight huh?

Its a pulling feat that comes with numerous of things besides lifting something.

Standing on 2 legs and picking up a trillion is totally different than pulling something with something aiding you (flight).

I showed you the documents where it was stated about the 100000 ton mark.

Originally posted by carver9
So you also think that the martian can lift 100 trillion tons as well since he has aided in moving the moon with flight huh?

Its a pulling feat that comes with numerous of things besides lifting something.

Standing on 2 legs and picking up a trillion is totally different than pulling something with something aiding you (flight).

I showed you the documents where it was stated about the 100000 ton mark.

did i say that?

its still strength.

why is it? also, using flight is nothing more than an excuse when you can't prove it aids him. that's like saying my legs are somehow independent of my physical strength.

what ones? your wizard bios that aren't even canon?

I'm thinking team 2. They have teamwork and flight going for them.

Originally posted by -Pr-
did i say that?

its still strength.

why is it? also, using flight is nothing more than an excuse when you can't prove it aids him. that's like saying my legs are somehow independent of my physical strength.

what ones? your wizard bios that aren't even canon?

You can't give one feat to one character and not give it to the other... martian is a trillion ton lifter as well if we go by your definiton. The thing about it is we have past statement of superman saying that flight aids him with lifting things. I know that its old but there is nothing contradicting this.

Lol... yeah, it came from a wizard magazine BUT it was also an interview from a dc writer that stated this.

Originally posted by carver9
You can't give one feat to one character and not give it to the other... martian is a trillion ton lifter as well if we go by your definiton. The thing about it is we have past statement of superman saying that flight aids him with lifting things. I know that its old but there is nothing contradicting this.

Lol... yeah, it came from a wizard magazine BUT it was also an interview from a dc writer that stated this.

i wasn't talking about the feat you're referencing, though.

actually his entire powerset contradicts it. john byrne had superman's powers being fuelled by his willpower rather than anything else. that's been heavily discarded for years now, and one scan that hasn't been referenced in almost twenty years wouldn't hold up for any character, much less superman.

so? it's not canon if it's not printed in a comic. simple as that. some writers are going to think he's not that strong. some are. some think he's far stronger than that, even.

his feats, however, put him well above trillions.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i wasn't talking about the feat you're referencing, though.

actually his entire powerset contradicts it. john byrne had superman's powers being fuelled by his willpower rather than anything else. that's been heavily discarded for years now, and one scan that hasn't been referenced in almost twenty years wouldn't hold up for any character, much less superman.

so? it's not canon if it's not printed in a comic. simple as that. some writers are going to think he's not that strong. some are. some think he's far stronger than that, even.

his feats, however, put him well above trillions.

Pr... I have so much to say about this post but I am going to leave it alone... badabing is waiting for me to do the slightest thing wrong.

Me and you will always have different views on things.

Originally posted by carver9
As for current hulk... in my eyes he is more powerful than ANY brick that supes or the jla has fought and lost too so he can solo this group imo.

Strong Guy, She Hulk, Beast, and others have dodged hits from the guy. You don't have to believe that Kal or Diana will evade every attack, but acting like Hulk can just tag them whenever he feels the need is stretching it.

I know you weren't saying this(iirc), but I don't feel like searching the thread again.

Originally posted by Stoic
I would never hint at the possibility. That's absolutely ridiculous on average. Superman was however one shotted by Konvikt, but since that only happened once, I'll call it PIS... It better not happen again though 😛 .

So it might happen again. 😛

Originally posted by carver9
Pr... I have so much to say about this post but I am going to leave it alone... badabing is waiting for me to do the slightest thing wrong.

Me and you will always have different views on things.

badabing won't touch you; well, not in that way anyway.

i just don't see how you can ignore and lowball so much...

Originally posted by -Pr-
badabing won't touch you; well, not in that way anyway.

i just don't see how you can ignore and lowball so much...

Omg... I'm not low balling supes... I said that no one that was mentioned in this thread can lift a trillion tons except the hulk and thor along with others was mentioned here. I just don't think that they can. That's like me saying "since grey hulk crushed a meteor that was twice the size of earth he can lifting a trillion tons"... it just doesn't work like that (in my eyes). Its not a lifting feat to me. I'm not the only one that say this about flight aiding him in moving the planet.

Originally posted by carver9
Omg... I'm not low balling supes... I said that no one that was mentioned in this thread can lift a trillion tons except the hulk and thor along with others was mentioned here. I just don't think that they can. That's like me saying "since grey hulk crushed a meteor that was twice the size of earth he can lifting a trillion tons"... it just doesn't work like that (in my eyes). Its not a lifting feat to me. I'm not the only one that say this about flight aiding him in moving the planet.

why are you thinking that a trillion tons is such a high number? it is by our standards, but to most high heralds it really isn't.

yes, but the others are wrong too. 😛

and they're a minority.

Originally posted by Warlord
Team Marvel wins.

Thor beats Supes
Hulk beats Diana
Wolverine and Bats leave em to go clubbing

thor supes tie

hulk loses to diana

logan and bats tie.

prolly supes team for the win.