whobdamandog vs batman fanboys

At least these were legitimate fights and not as farfetched to be a discouragement against fanboys. I'm iffy about the Nightcrawler battle as teleporting still sometimes take some energy out of him and he has to get a good jump on him too (i.e. Sebastion Shaw isn't exactly the fastest, but he was able to tag him). The others, Batman has a decent chance especially when he does have a utility belt and this isn't just a required one on one fist fight. Also, he's faced superior fighters than him and still won (i.e. Lady Shiva).

i dont know about the others... but in ultimate x-men #50 arcade guessed where nightcrawler would teleport, if he can do it, why can't bats???

n.b. while i know that ultimate is different from uncanny, they are comparable enough. nightcrawler is not nor ever will be a great battlefield tactician...

There is no pattern to Nightcrawler's teleportation. The teleportation is instant(faster than light). Nightcrawler is stronger. Nightcrawler is faster. Nightcrawler is more agile. Before Batman could deduce anything, he'd be out cold. Even if Batman "deduced a pattern," then what. He's physically outmatched as well. There is no reason whatsoever that Batman should win.

Ultimate X-Men is very different. Nightcrawler is much younger. Arcade is a scientific genius.

as i stated i know ultimate is different, the point i'm making as that nightcrawler is not a tactical thinker in any sense. as for there being no pattern, seriously? everything has a pattern, its the nature of the human brain. its just a question of figuring out that pattern.

i'm not saying batman wouldnt get hurt, of course he would, but hes taken hits from bigger guys than nightcrawler and not been knocked out.

the taskmaster thing ticks me off, He logically shouldn't be able to beat him in a 1 on 1 hand to hand fight, it doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by pr1983
i dont know about the others... but in ultimate x-men #50 arcade guessed where nightcrawler would teleport, if he can do it, why can't bats???

n.b. while i know that ultimate is different from uncanny, they are comparable enough. nightcrawler is not nor ever will be a great battlefield tactician...

Well I think arcade knows a little bit more about nightcrawler than batman does....Again this is going to be a random battle...If batman had enough time to get all the info about nightcrawler..then yeah I'm sure he could give him a pretty good fight..but then again..so could most human level fighters/superheroes..

i see your point, but batman is one of the most intelligent tacticians in comics, he shouldnt need prep time against nightcrawler...

and in ultimate he didnt seem to know about nightcrawler beforehand...

Originally posted by pr1983
as i stated i know ultimate is different, the point i'm making as that nightcrawler is not a tactical thinker in any sense. as for there being no pattern, seriously? everything has a pattern, its the nature of the human brain. its just a question of figuring out that pattern.

i'm not saying batman wouldnt get hurt, of course he would, but hes taken hits from bigger guys than nightcrawler and not been knocked out.

And Batman has also been taken down by some pretty pitiful enemies as well...The fact that a steroid user could beat him is just friggin ridiculous... and things do have patterns..that I agree to..however..batman has a reaction time that's on a human level..and would be very susceptible to being caught of gaurd, regardless of his ability to recognize said pattern...

For example I could logically know when someone is going to point a gun and fire it at me...however I'm not going to be able to move my body fast enough to dodge the bullet....that's not a failing on my being able to deduce a pattern.....that a failing on the part of my abilities abilities...

a couple of kicks to the head from nightcrawler...really should be more than enough to take batman down..and as far as I know..I don't believe he armors his head as much as he does his body...

Originally posted by MatchesMalone
Ah, I see. I didn't know you wanted a good debate. However, it is a little contradictory to say that you want to argue with fanboys, but you also want a good debate. I have never seen that combination. Either way, it is your crusade and I didn't mean to step on any body's toes. Remember, you still have your ace up your sleeve, which is Nightcrawler. He can grab Batman in a split second and drop him in the sky. Somebody has to be biased towards Batman if they think he can win in a random battle. Your welcome for the vote.

lol..its cool..didn't bother me none....now that I think about it though I do wish I would of put some more powerful characters up against bats..would have been fun to debate with some of the real bat fanatics...

oh and in terms of his battle tactics..nightcrawler has proven to have pretty savvy leadership abilities on a number of occassions...he did help lead the team Excalibur for quite some time...

And Excalibur failed miserably as a team.

Originally posted by Draco69
And Excalibur failed miserably as a team.

Excalibur Accomplishments..

Defeated Juggernaut..Issue 3..

Prevented the Wizard Merlin from messing up earth 616 reality..On more than one occassion...

Stopped the wizard Necrom from destroying the universe with the Pheonix Force..

Helped the X-men save the earth and the Universe from Symm and other demons during Inferno..

riiiight...lol...a real bunch of loosers...🙄

Originally posted by whobdamandog
And Batman has also been taken down by some pretty pitiful enemies as well...The fact that a steroid user could beat him is just friggin ridiculous... and things do have patterns..that I agree to..however..batman has a reaction time that's on a human level..and would be very susceptible to being caught of gaurd, regardless of his ability to recognize said pattern...

For example I could logically know when someone is going to point a gun and fire it at me...however I'm not going to be able to move my body fast enough to dodge the bullet....that's not a failing on my being able to deduce a pattern.....that a failing on the part of my abilities abilities...

a couple of kicks to the head from nightcrawler...really should be more than enough to take batman down..and as far as I know..I don't believe he armors his head as much as he does his body...

i see your point completely, but nightcrawlers not like a bullet, if bats guesses where he'll materialise hes got him...

as for nightcrawler, he's a favourite of mine, but imo his battle experience doesnt compare to that of bruce...