What is to be seen as right or wrong you decide.

oh my god they were just lying naked dick to ass. Well I was exxagerating, I shall be punished in a fair manner for that offense, as should the Soldiers for theirs.

no because the soldiers have a duty to extract any information needed, and so they use humiliation techniques, starvation, thirst, anything. how can extreme muslim groups be angered by what they see when they will treat our soldiers far far worse

Not the extreme muslim groups are the problem the normal Muslim communities, and still torturing is not acceptabale, we got a little piece of paper called the geneva convention.

a little piece of paper that no-one cares about, we also have a thing called freedom of speech yet we still cant say what we think as some things are deemed unacceptable. ridiculous

Indeed it is.
So you agree nwith me?

in some sense but i dont see the logic in allowing them to terrorize our soldiers yet we cant do it to theres. do you deem this time of interrigation unacceptable?

In this day and age, there are rules that govern conduct, and in the cases mentioned the soldiers broke those rules. Now yes, Muslim extremists do bad things, and no, not all Muslims are bad, how ever, that is not a viable legal excuse for the actions of those soldiers. It is not forgivable. Likewise, it should be noted that significant numbers of those captures have nothing to do with those that would behead a soldier, or anything. As we can see in Guantanamo Bay, large numbers of those that have been held there for years are being released because a. Not enough evidence against them or b. they were INNOCENT to begin with.

Now, if that is the case, then how can you be sure that person you are cruelly torturing and humiliating can tell you anything? What information do they wish to get? But ah, to make an omelet you must break a few eggs eh? Oh and rules?

Whats with you people? War is war, if war wasnt brutal and skank then we'd be slapping each other with wet fish and rubber gloves. Unfortunatley its brutal and if they do it, its not wrong for us to do it.

2 wrongs DO make a right. Simple mathmatics (odd+odd = even).

Originally posted by sexyking
Now i dont mean to offend anyone muslim or anything like that But recently in Britain there have been pictures of British troops torturing Iraqi people. This I totally disagree with but there is something that really annoys me is that they say the Muslim community are angered and then I think didn’t their people behead a load of civilians live on the net and said it was right. I know those individuals are called outcasts by some Muslims but it still doesn’t deter the fact that they beheaded innocent people like animals. What do people think of this scenario please place your views.

There was an interesting quote in an article I read a few months back that said that not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim. While this is a poigniant statment, it isn't wholly true. But, you are right. How can anyone assume that it one act of savagry is more tollerable or acceptable than another? It matters little what faith you are, anyone is capable of great acts of cruelty. Be they muslim, christian, jewish or otherwise.

But christains and jews dont go roung beheading people in the name of thier god do they. Even though the jews did kill jesus christ a few thousand years ago.

"Whats all the fuss about this anyway? They are soldiers, they are required to kill, to hurt, what do you think they are gunna do to a person whos trying to kill them?"

Required to kill, yes. Required to torture? No.

-AC

"Whats all the fuss about this anyway? They are soldiers, they are required to kill, to hurt, what do you think they are gunna do to a person whos trying to kill them?"

Required to kill, yes. Required to torture? No.

-AC

Today I made a new observation..---> The truth can be look at different levels of familiarity...<--- Is it good or what?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
There was an interesting quote in an article I read a few months back that said that not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim. While this is a poigniant statment, it isn't wholly true. But, you are right. How can anyone assume that it one act of savagry is more tollerable or acceptable than another? It matters little what faith you are, anyone is capable of great acts of cruelty. Be they muslim, christian, jewish or otherwise.

religions are made by humans.. the only problem is HUMANS themselves...
things that can affect humans actions-->limited time, the believes(philosophy), and (the environment one is in)--> which could lead back to the philosophy of that person that affects one's action if one is placed in a different environment...

Humans cause trouble.. humans solve problems.. humans will always be an obstacle in life.. the only question I always ask myself, should I help them? The answer always goes back to--> yes.

You have to look at it this way, which is--> people are always learning.. and according to that, you were once their state, and always will be.. as knowledge is described as infinate. To get familiar to knowledge, will remain as one's, or everyone's goal.

It's funny how people can rationalize the animalistic behaviour of some people and not the same behaviour of other people. By saying that you are saying that you are no better than they are.

No two wrongs don't make a right. For example, what terrorists are doing in Iraq is not justifiable because Bush sent his troops there to fight an illegal war. See, every sword has two edges.

And before everyone starts flaming me, no I don't support terrorists, yes I always support the military (except the deviant freaks who are no better than the deviant freaks they are fighting), and yes I think Bush is a total ass for starting this whole mess to begin with, and I'm not too fond of Blair who decided to jump in there with him.

I'm not accusing any countries wether Iraq or America (George Bush) is wrong, or right...I don't dare...
But I said that both are still in a state where they are still imature(lack of experience/knowldge) to do the right thing...
It is part of nature that war happens.. you know? So how can anyone be wrong? Their instinct made them do it.. and they are born with that instinct...If we are not born with errors, then we certainly can't do the wrong thing can we? But it is part of nature for us to find the truth.. and as Philosophicus said, "Philosophers should rule a country".. I finally agreed with him.