Neo vs. the Flash

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
not neccessairily

awesome argument..i concede 🙄

Flash gets curbstomp inside the matrix...there are not if's and's or but's.
Under the simple rule Neo can do whate ever he wants...INSIDE THE MATRIX.

Outside the matrix, now this is a whole different story.

Originally posted by bench261
yeah with the exception that neo can have flash's speed if he wanted to.

if flash can have his powers in the matrix, it means there is code that allows him to do so...the very same ones that neo can manipulate that allows him to fly

NEO > flash in the matrix....flash would be just like trinity or morpheous, things that would kill them in the matrix won't kill neo since they can't manipulate the rules lke he can.

flash gets curbstomping and speed raping...neo will freeze flash like he did those bullets, and rip his heart out or just fly thru him...another possibility is to move faster than the flash. neo only went faster than smith in matrix 1, if smith moved at the speed of flash then neo woulda went one step above it...

btw..... agents > flash. since there is nothing flash can do to kill them

BOTTOMLINE...if it can be done by normal ppl in the matrix...then neo can do it +1

Has he ever manipulated the code to copy others abilities...No

If he was able to he wouldn't need an operator to upload him programs he'd just be able to copy and paste.

Flash kills the guy easily.

After he got the Kung Fu uploads in part 1 during his training what other uploads did he receive?

Neo does not need anyone to uplaod any program. Neo has never needed any operator to upload any programs. Except the time when he got those martial arts download in the real world.

And trinity died. Her heart stop beating after Neo took the bullet out of her chest.

Originally posted by grey fox
Has he ever manipulated the code to copy others abilities...No

If he was able to he wouldn't need an operator to upload him programs he'd just be able to copy and paste.

Flash kills the guy easily.

like whose abilities did he ever need to copy to kill? the only one that was equal to him was smith.

point is flash is only limited to what the matrix allows him to do. he's a lesser being than an agent who is even lesser to NEO. if flash gets shot he will die, if he takes a 1000lb punch to the chest he will die. NEO can one up him on speed anytime. flash would be no different from a clueless human being trapped in the matrix. just cuz neo didnt display faster than light speed doesnt mean he can't do it...if it exist in the matrix..then neo can do it. arguing about this is almost as futile as flash fighting neo in the matrix.

flash can't even beat 1 agent, the agent would just take his silly ass over and cap himself in the head

NEO = superman+batman+yoda+jesus

flash = buttraped/owned by 1 agent

if he can do it, why didnt he in the one moment when he was giving it his all? when his lover was dying? that was his greatest motivation in the whole trilogy and he still wasnt fast enough.

It was pretty clear Neo's speed was based more on dragging things behind him than actual speed since it took him forever to get to Trinity.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Neo does not need anyone to uplaod any program. Neo has never needed any operator to upload any programs. Except the time when he got those martial arts download in the real world.

And trinity died. Her heart stop beating after Neo took the bullet out of her chest.

For a few seconds, he then manually started her heart again . Sounds alot liek cpr to me.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
if he can do it, why didnt he in the one moment when he was giving it his all? when his lover was dying? that was his greatest motivation in the whole trilogy and he still wasnt fast enough.

because its a friggin movie...this is all on the condition IF flash existed in the matrix. if human faster than light speed doesn't exist in the matrix then flash can't do it

thats just it. all we can base him on is ON the friggin movies.....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
thats just it. all we can base him on is ON the friggin movies.....

well u have to use the LOGIC if flash can do what he can do IN the matrix...then neo CAN do it. but flash doesnt exist in the movie now does he??

wouild flashes speed even work in the matrix? when you jack in do you get replaced with a generic body inside the matrix, or is it a digital copy of your non-matrix self?

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
wouild flashes speed even work in the matrix? when you jack in do you get replaced with a generic body inside the matrix, or is it a digital copy of your non-matrix self?

digital copy, but slightly and limited bent rules on physics if you're not an agent or the "one"

it would also work providing the matrix allows such a thing

Originally posted by bench261
digital copy, but slightly and limited bent rules on physics if you're not an agent or the "one"

it would also work providing the matrix allows such a thing

Didnt Morpheus(sp?) say to Neo that some rules can be bent and some can be broken? Isnt that the whole idea of freeing and opening your mind?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Didnt Morpheus(sp?) say to Neo that some rules can be bent and some can be broken? Isnt that the whole idea of freeing and opening your mind?

yeah he did...thts y morpheus and trinity can do crazy s***..but there are some that can manipulate it and then some like agents who can take rounds of ammo and not go down or die/ steal bodies...or a better example neo who can do superman/batman/yoda and jesus like feats

Originally posted by bench261
yeah he did...thts y morpheus and trinity can do crazy s***..but there are some that can manipulate it and then some like agents who can take rounds of ammo and not go down or die/ steal bodies...or a better example neo who can do superman/batman/yoda and jesus like feats

Well, we know that there are others who can do crazy s**t like Naiobi(sp?) and im sure others who actually go into combat can as well. Some are just better than others at it. We just havent seen anyone else fight besides Neo, Trinity, Morpheus, Naiobi and Oracle's bodyguard. More training is the key. Neo is the chosen one and thats why he was able to train for over 8 hours straight without stopping. His potential was higher than anyone else's. If you train hard enough and focus, you can do some of the crazy stuff as well. Maybe not fly and have telekenisis, but move really fast like Trinity or super jump like Morpheus. Agents just move slightly faster and are slightly stronger, but they arent THAT much more advanced. When did a agent ever take a round and not go down? Everytime they were shot, they went down. Usually they just dodge.

If Flash fought Neo in the Matrix, it would be like fighting a Superman ripoff imo. We dont know how strong Neo is, but from whats been shown, he isnt more than 2cl, he flies at mach speeds, is a Shang-Chi level combatant imo and is a very low level telekinetic.

I dont think its enough to take Flash.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well, we know that there are others who can do crazy s**t like Naiobi(sp?) and im sure others who actually go into combat can as well. Some are just better than others at it. We just havent seen anyone else fight besides Neo, Trinity, Morpheus, Naiobi and Oracle's bodyguard. More training is the key. Neo is the chosen one and thats why he was able to train for over 8 hours straight without stopping. His potential was higher than anyone else's. If you train hard enough and focus, you can do some of the crazy stuff as well. Maybe not fly and have telekenisis, but move really fast like Trinity or super jump like Morpheus. Agents just move slightly faster and are slightly stronger, but they arent THAT much more advanced. When did a agent ever take a round and not go down? Everytime they were shot, they went down. Usually they just dodge.

If Flash fought Neo in the Matrix, it would be like fighting a Superman ripoff imo. We dont know how strong Neo is, but from whats been shown, he isnt more than 2cl, he flies at mach speeds, is a Shang-Chi level combatant imo and is a very low level telekinetic.

I dont think its enough to take Flash.

Originally posted by Juntai
Good analysis.

😄 Thanks.

So we all agree neo takes a stomping ...aside from those who still protest that 'he's a god' .