Originally posted by snoopdogg
IM has a better chance to win probably but he has to rely on his suit while Colossus does not have to worry about malfunctions etc.IronMans repulsor blasts are not gonna help him at all I think. His best bet is to use his magnet attack but I'm not so sure that is strong enough to control the stength of Colossus.
Can't argue with that. 🙂
Mybe yes maybe not but if Colossus starts throwing too much heavy things at him one might hit him hard enough to make some system malfuction a bit, or just throw a car or something like that hard enough to Iron Man's legs (where the key of his flying is) and Tony might not be fast enough for some aura attacks...And then flying is over...Like Snoop Dogg said malfunctions happen nearly everytime with Iron Man...I love the fella...I'm a Colossus fanboy but there has to be a little chance for Colossus to win this fight...Even though Iron Man got more chance...
Originally posted by Rewmac
Mybe yes maybe not but if Colossus starts throwing too much heavy things at him one might hit him hard enough to make some system malfuction a bit, or just throw a car or something like that hard enough to Iron Man's legs (where the key of his flying is) and Tony might not be fast enough for some aura attacks...And then flying is over...Like Snoop Dogg said malfunctions happen nearly everytime with Iron Man...I love the fella...I'm a Colossus fanboy but there has to be a little chance for Colossus to win this fight...Even though Iron Man got more chance...
Current Iron Man would dodge it like nothing. His reaction time and multitasking is insane because of the whole Extremis thing. His reaction time is in milliseconds, literally.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Current Iron Man would dodge it like nothing. His reaction time and multitasking is insane because of the whole Extremis thing. His reaction time is in milliseconds, literally.
CO-SIGN to the 10th power.........finally someone who has been keeping up. IMs' new suit is contained within his nervous system. He is able to transform as quickly as Banner is able to change into the Hulk. Meaning his responce/reaction time is greatly improved.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Iron Man is not more duable than Colosssus. Read Secret Wars #12.Colossus has taken IM's repulsor blasts one time with no trouble. And best of all it was when Colossus wasn't expecting it and still was unharmed and grabbed IM in flight and slammed him into the ground.
He has also taken a blast from a tank that was made out of the same technology that IM's rupulsor blasts are made out of and got right back up like he wasn't even hit.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/doggydogg2/Colossustakingrepulsarblast.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/doggydogg2/Colossus_Spiderwoman5.jpg
(Nothing to do with IM but cool feat)IM can do the fly 50ft in the air and blast Colossus all day but how long can IM do that? And how many can Colossus take? Well I think he can take alot of those blast if he is expecting them.
Tough fight though but I give IM the slight edge.
When was the secret wars written, i believe over 20 years of technological upgrades have been made since then. I'll admit i have reservations over the power of the repulsor rays, but i am certain that Tony is far stronger and more durable than Current Colossus. The second time Iron man knocked out the Hulk, he had plenty of energy to spare. The scans show that Colossus can withstand a single blast, but continual blasts are going to have far more effect. Tony's current suit is powered by a form of Fusion reaction, meaning he has plenty of energy available to him. During the recent Avengers run, his force field was able to withstand a near nuclear explosion, the force of which Colossus has NO CHANCE of replicating. His force fields were also used to defend Bob Reynolds from the Void. I've seen earlier editions of Tony suit lift objects weighing thousands of tons, without running out of gas. Is there any evidence to suggest that Colossus can do the same ? 🙂
Originally posted by R.O.T. YahmanI dislike the whole IM character completely. I mean think about it. That suit should be heavy as hell and the way hydraulics and pneumatics works it makes no sense that IM can move fast enough to actually fight somebody. Sure I can see him flying fast and all but when he is grounded he should be a sititng duck. I know this is comics and sciences and physics do not apply so I'll let that slide.
When was the secret wars written, i believe over 20 years of technological upgrades have been made since then. I'll admit i have reservations over the power of the repulsor rays, but i am certain that Tony is far stronger and more durable than Current Colossus. The second time Iron man knocked out the Hulk, he had plenty of energy to spare. The scans show that Colossus can withstand a single blast, but continual blasts are going to have far more effect. Tony's current suit is powered by a form of Fusion reaction, meaning he has plenty of energy available to him. During the recent Avengers run, his force field was able to withstand a near nuclear explosion, the force of which Colossus has NO CHANCE of replicating. His force fields were also used to defend Bob Reynolds from the Void. I've seen earlier editions of Tony suit lift objects weighing thousands of tons, without running out of gas. Is there any evidence to suggest that Colossus can do the same ? 🙂
Anyways I am dying to see your proof that IM is "far" stronger and more durable than Colossus.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That didn't help him when Namor kicked his @ss recently...........
His recent fight with Crimson Dynamo was a great showing for how significantly his speed, reaction times, and overall abilities have increased.
well..thats the problem when u fight IM. Since hes technological hero, he get upgrades galore just like a laptop. New year...new model. I guess a writer can just create a suit that can beat galactus if he wanted. haha but im guessin an iron man written to his normal potential would be an even match for colossus. How many times have we seen colossus hold his own against IM...quite a few.
Originally posted by nwg202Good point g.
well..thats the problem when u fight IM. Since hes technological hero, he get upgrades galore just like a laptop. New year...new model. I guess a writer can just create a suit that can beat galactus if he wanted. haha but im guessin an iron man written to his normal potential would be an even match for colossus. How many times have we seen colossus hold his own against IM...quite a few.
IM is a character that the writer can create a suit/upgrade that has any power he needs to win a fight.
Originally posted by nwg202
well..thats the problem when u fight IM. Since hes technological hero, he get upgrades galore just like a laptop. New year...new model. I guess a writer can just create a suit that can beat galactus if he wanted. haha but im guessin an iron man written to his normal potential would be an even match for colossus. How many times have we seen colossus hold his own against IM...quite a few.
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Ehhhh...
Colossus has held his own against Iron Man quite a few times?
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Care to put a ball park # on that?
Iron Man can go toe to toe with The HULK and knock his ass OUT... But he can't handle a heads up with Colossuss' flaming ass...
You guys are reading too much X-everything (stop that you'll grow hair on your palms) and your forgetting Iron Man is now EXTREMIS whatever shot (how ever slim Colossus had before) He has 0 chance now.
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Originally posted by snoopdogg
I dislike the whole IM character completely. I mean think about it. That suit should be heavy as hell and the way hydraulics and pneumatics works it makes no sense that IM can move fast enough to actually fight somebody. Sure I can see him flying fast and all but when he is grounded he should be a sititng duck. I know this is comics and sciences and physics do not apply so I'll let that slide.Anyways I am dying to see your proof that IM is "far" stronger and more durable than Colossus.
Its all in the Resepct Iron Man thread ....
He's lifted the National monument in Washington D.C.,
He caught entire parts of large Skyscrapers,
He's helped the Avengers Catch a piece of a floating Island which weighed Millions of tons, and then help throw it.
He's Knocked out the Hulk twice, and Thor once. He's also beaten Thor on more than two occasions primarily using punches.
IMO Colossus is incapable of performing any of these feats of strength. Infact there is no evidence to suggest that he can lift much more than 100 tons. Iron Man quantify, is at least 10 times stronger than Colossus,
Its Ironic that your using science against a character who in my opinions seems a TINY bit more realistic than a man made out of...... ummmmm 'Organic Steel' ???????? 😕
Originally posted by Sam Z
Dude! 10 times?! 🤨
A Kilo ton is 10 x heavier than 100 tons, so yeah at least 10 times. But statistical multiple's in strength, rarely mean too much in comic book universes. Thats why a fight between the Thing and the Hulk are not as one sided as they should be. There are many examples of this .... Thor vs Hyde, Wonder Woman vs Giganta, Superman vs Wonder Woman, Aquaman vs Superman. There are literally hundreds of examples of fights, when characters are multiple times stronger than their opponents. 🙂
Here Colossus support weight that is above 100 tonnes.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j...tWars009-09.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j...tWars009-10.jpg
I seriously doubt that IronMan could support weight 10 times bigger than that.
Oh, and this one is also interesting.
