superhero olympics, superman V's all other heros

Started by Cosmic Cube4 pages

Originally posted by K3VIL
Footrace: Ok that's right.
Strenght Competitions: WRONG.Superman's base strenght is above Hulk.Hulk would get madder cause he see Superman doing best shots than him, but he would still be under his strenght level, it's not instant the strenght increase, it takes time for Hulk to reach higher steps of Class 100 strenght.
Swimming: It maybe a draw, Superman's speed is anyway amazing.
Archey: Bullseye?Do you forget Hawkeye and Green Arrow.
Gymnastics: Spiderman?Plastic Man would win i think.Anyway Superman isn't an acrobat at Spidey's level but he's pretty good in that sector.Anyway not as Spidey or PM

About wrestling, both Hercules and Thor possess equal strenght, when Thor weild Mjolnir he's stronger, but even without it he would show his own.Hercules is actually at half of his full power, if Zeus give back to his son his real power he can beat the leaving crap out of Thor(without Mjolnir) and Hulk.

Strength: Actually the strength increase IS instant. Hulk's not a battery, he just flips out. How do you know What Hulk's "base strength" is? He has never failed to lift anything. His base strength is far greater than class 100.

I considered both. Bullseye is more accurate than Green Arrow or Hawkeye. He cannot miss a motionless target.

Namor could cross the Pacific Ocean in less than a minute.

Plasticman

Hercules's strength is not restrained, and he isn't stronger than Thor or Hulk. (I'm talking about Marvel's Hercules, not Disney's.) He would lose to either.

Superman isn't agile. I don't know about Plasticman. Spidey wins, he's the most agile hero ever.

K3VIL, word to the wise.

If you're gonna call everyone a Hulk fanboy, stop talking about him and dissing him like he's your sworn enemy, in every thread. Stop ruining the forum threads with your petty insecurities over a comic character.

-AC

Hulk's strength is not definitely not 70 tons at a calm state, marveldirectory.com is completely wrong. I have the Official Marvel: 'Incredible Hulk' handbook. His strength is far above 100 tons. It isn't crap writing, you just don't know the facts. Hulk is much stronger than Silver Surfer, or Gladiator. There is no "Class 100" in the handbook, there is strength levels 1-7. people in level 7 can lift more (not slightly more) than 100 tons. Hulk is in level Seven, along with Galactus, Juggernaut, and Thanos. He can exceed any of them, as his strength has no limit.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Strength: Actually the strength increase IS instant. Hulk's not a battery, he just flips out. How do you know What Hulk's "base strength" is? He has never failed to lift anything. His base strength is far greater than class 100.

I considered both. Bullseye is more accurate than Green Arrow or Hawkeye. He cannot miss a motionless target.

Namor could cross the Pacific Ocean in less than a minute.

Plasticman

Hercules's strength is not restrained, and he isn't stronger than Thor or Hulk. (I'm talking about Marvel's Hercules, not Disney's.) He would lose to either.

Superman isn't agile. I don't know about Plasticman. Spidey wins, he's the most agile hero ever.


Hercules strenght and godly powers are at half of their full level.And it comes from Marvel Handbook, it's not a fanboy site information.Zeus take out from his son 50% of his powers cause Hercules was arguing the Avengers are worth mortals and he cannot agree with his fathers opinions and diktats.Hercule says his powers are at 50% when he was called from Thor to help the Avenger in a mission to rescue the Juggernaut from the Exemplars.

Good grief.

Talk about thread ruiners.

I tell you what, create a "Strength Class Debate" thread and do battle there. Coz it's becoming boring.

-AC

Gladiator is essentially (though no one wishes to admit it,) Superman's virtual equal. Though Superman is much more popular, they essentially have the same abilities.

What the hell does this have to do with this thread!?

Hulk is stronger than Gladiator, but no blue-blooded Superman fan is willing to admit that Hulk is stronger than Superman. I am here to say that you are wrong. All the Hulk has is strength, and it is infinite. Hulk wins the strength competition, point blank.

Hulk's strength is not infinite my friend. It has limits as he is a human being. Eventually he would probably get so mad he would have a heart attack or something of that nature. People call Superman a stupid character and that's their business but creating a character that gets stronger as he get's madder is just infantile. And if Supes and Hulk butted heads right now, Superman would tear his green ass to shreds. The Hulk's endurance and invunerability is nowhere near Superman's and it's crazy to think otherwise.

Hulk is human? Maybe you're talking about the Hulk in the 70's TV show. You obviously haven't read any recent Marvel comics.

The Hulk is not human, and Hulk's strength is infinte. He is not powered by anger but adrenaline. His base strength is far greater than 100 tons, and is very likely greater than Superman's. His enhanced physiology and healing factor would never allow a heart attack. I understand that you like superman, but don't defame another character. "Creating a character that gets stronger as he get's madder is just infantile." And a alien in blue tights that can fly isn't? At any rate, that's your opinion. Forums are based on facts not opinions. You can't take power away from a character just because you don't see it as being logical; hell, comics aren't logical. The fact is that sooner or later Hulk is stronger than Superman, and his endurance and durability are just as good as Superman's are. That was a very biased statement.

i didn't call this the superman V's hulk discussion for a reason people

besides..... isn't capain marvel (shazam)stronger than superman? i'm asking not to argue but to learn as i've never read one of his mags

Yeah, he is, so is Lobo, Doomsday, and Destroyer. I wish I hadn't even mentioned Hulk. I know the truth. I also knew all the misinformed Superman fanatics who haven't even glanced at the cover of a recent Hulk comic book would say "No, Superman is stronger!" It's unavoidable to have at least a few of them say such.

Oh Cosmic, you say they are more powerful but Superman has still managed to kick their asses so many times. I don't know why you guys hate on Superman so much, and I am biased in the sense that I use common sense and it tells me the Hulk cannot defeat Superman and is let alone stronger. Anyway I'm tired of this discussing this and besides, the roof of my mouth is burned.

Superman starts at 250,000 I think. Captain Marvel is weaker then Superman. So is Lobo. And Hulk starts weaker then Superman.

What do you mean Superman start at 250,000, he doesn't get any stronger. Even though Superman is weaker nowadays, his max is definitely higher than 250,000 though, he helped move the moon. You can't really say what Superman's strength is. DC doesn't give ability charts. But Hulk could easily and quickly become stronger than his max, whatever that is. Have someone slap Betty Ross in front of Hulk and boom, he's way stronger than Superman.

How do you know whet level of angriness he needs to be to be stronger then Superman? When someone slaps Betty, he may be only class 300 when someone kills Betty, then he may be stronger the Supes.

The Hulk's power increases exponentially. In an mildly enraged state (mild to moderate adrenaline flow,) Hulk can lift the weight of a skyscraper. When he's pretty pissed, he can lift a 150,000,000,000 ton mountain. When he's really, really pissed, he can move the entire earth from it's orbit with a punch, or obliterate an asteroid twice earth's size. It pretty much goes on and on from there. There is no limit to his strength.

If someone attacked Betty, the love of his life, imagine how angry he would become. Imagine how angry you would be if someone walks up and slaps your mother (no offense intended.)

OK.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The Hulk's power increases exponentially. In an mildly enraged state (mild to moderate adrenaline flow,) Hulk can lift the weight of a skyscraper. When he's pretty pissed, he can lift a 150,000,000,000 ton mountain. When he's really, really pissed, he can move the entire earth from it's orbit with a punch, or obliterate an asteroid twice earth's size. It pretty much goes on and on from there. There is no limit to his strength.

If someone attacked Betty, the love of his life, imagine how angry he would become. Imagine how angry you would be if someone walks up and slaps your mother (no offense intended.)


Do you know EXACTLY how his strenght would be boosted by seeing betty slapped in the ass?When those freaking cyborg lizards sended from The Base to obtain Hulk's blood were going to kill both Nadia Blonsky and Betty, Hulk was angry, but when he punch the ground to destroy the lizards the Earth's orbit wasn't modified.You're just assuming that seeing Betty Banner in danger or hurted would make Hulk a raging bull with outstanding strenght.Anyway considering that Superman is faster, in the time Hulk gets enraged, Superman would win all the strenght demonstrations and Hulk would be disqualified cause the time for the demonstrations is over.
Why for you fanboys is so hard to understand that:
Basic Strenght + Speed>Potentially Unlimited Strenght
It's simple.

Originally posted by David Duchovony
Oh Cosmic, you say they are more powerful but Superman has still managed to kick their asses so many times. I don't know why you guys hate on Superman so much, and I am biased in the sense that I use common sense and it tells me the Hulk cannot defeat Superman and is let alone stronger. Anyway I'm tired of this discussing this and besides, the roof of my mouth is burned.

You seem to be speaking from opinion. Whether Superman can beat Hulk or not, that's not what this thread is about.

I don't hate on Superman. No one is hating on Superman. Superman is one of the most beloved characters in all comics. If anyone is being "hated on" it's Hulk. Most people who like Superman (and there are a hell of a lot of them,) bash Hulk, like yourself. "Hulk doesn't have infinite strength." "A character who gets stronger as he gets angrier is infantile." Accept the character as the writers created him. Saying Hulk doesn't have infinite strength is like saying Superman can't fly. That's his ability: infinite strength. Try to remember, some people like Hulk just as much as you like Superman. Come to grips with the fact that someone might be stronger (though not necessarily better) than Superman.

Just thought I'd point out that their is no Class 300; Class 100 incorperates everything above a certain point. The Hulk is well above the 100 ton range, it is the feets that matter for the sake of argument not some lable that was slapped on characters so they could sell hand books.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You seem to be speaking from opinion. Whether Superman can beat Hulk or not, that's not what this thread is about.

I don't hate on Superman. No one is hating on Superman. Superman is one of the most beloved characters in all comics. If anyone is being "hated on" it's Hulk. Most people who like Superman (and there are a hell of a lot of them,) bash Hulk, like yourself. "Hulk doesn't have infinite strength." "A character who gets stronger as he gets angrier is infantile." Accept the character as the writers created him. Saying Hulk doesn't have infinite strength is like saying Superman can't fly. That's his ability: infinite strength. Try to remember, some people like Hulk just as much as you like Superman. Come to grips with the fact that someone might be stronger (though not necessarily better) than Superman.


First of all i'm discuting, but i dont' like Superman, i mean i like him but he's not my favourite, too much strong unless in comes against him a uber alles guy or someone with kryptonite, i prefer powerhoused not so unbeatable like Thor, Cage, Namor, Captain Marvel(SHAZAM), Superboy.
Anyway i don't hate hulk, but potential is still POTENTIAL.I have the potential to be the new Einstein, but i don't like physic and math and i don't like study too much, i have the potential to be a big tough guy going to the gym every afternoon, but i'm sufficiently tough to don't need to go in every afternoon.My motorcycle have the potential to be a rocket with two wheels if i put on it NOS.
Potential is like a If.You can achieve strenght over the leve of your enem when he wouldn't give you the chance to do it and when he's faster than you so you wouldn't have time.