Tournament Round #1

Originally posted by crazyspinz
id like to take a look at them to prepare a strategy for next round

A little overconfident aren't we?

ok i'm here, but i have to go to bed to get up for work tomorrow, so i'll lay out a few things then argue over them tomorrow

graviton immediately levitates doomsday (or possibly whole team) and suspends him 1 mile above battlefield, hawkeye fires a screamer arrow to dstract and confuse exodus while vision and wonderman attack exodus with everything they have first vis's microwave blasts stun him then WM slams into and begins pummeling while viz comes round behind and does the intangible hand thing to shock the hell out of him, then gets on top and increases to max density slamming him to the ground while still pummeling

after exodus is downed wonderman uses his superior speed and similar strength to smack colossus followed up closely by viz and scourge with a blinding flash from his lance, blinded colossus takes a thrashing from wonderman (who one time destroyed an adamantium ultron)

puma (who is faster and stronger than spider-man) charges and guts bishop who has no defence against that level of physical attack while carnage fires symbiote spikes like machine gun fire at gambit to shred him

after removing doomsday graviton turns attention to other guys increasing the effects of gravity on them 1000 times crushing them instantly

if you're unsure of grav's level of control check out the thunderbolts issues where he keeps the entirety of earths hero's (apart from the thunderbolts who he wants to kill uninterrupted) suspended above the earth unable to move (like he's currently doing to doomsday) along with most of the major cities
as for me having no other way to hurt your guys, hawkeye took out colossus in ultimate war with a low yield tactical nuke arrow...... he could do that again

well.....

scoobs has yet to show a strategy, and IMO my team overpowers his in every aspect exept for the powerfull street level, but that realy matter because guys like doomsday and exodus are strong enough to basicaly handle scoobs entire team

if doomsday needs to be taken out further graviton can slam him back to earthafter the rest of his team is dead 😎 and keep him pinned with whatever amount of force is necessary while calling down meteor's and asteroids to squash him.......... or the moon if necessary(whilest shielding his own team

ok i need to go to bed (scotland 12:40am working tomorrow)

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/graviton.htm

Graviton can make most of the other team too heavy to move and interfere with the way their heart works with one strong gravity field. At normal skill level he can do four things with his power at once. If Exodus can only cloud his mind, I think he could pull off one good act. Wild Child, Blade, Bishop, Gambit and Exodus are all going to have trouble when they are too heavy to move and their hearts are having trouble pumping blood. It's close either way, but crazy you seriously need to stop discounting his team.

Wonder Man is class 95, last time it was documented. He has the potential to harness and channel ionic energies for other effects (energy blasts) but hasn't quite learned or experimented with them yet. As a being permeated with ionic energy, he can assume an energy like state, he no longer neads to eat, sleep, and is immortal. He can take and recieve quite the beating. Colossus is a little bit stronger, but WM has the edge in speed and flight. Just for clarification.

ok scoobs, heres my defence

first of the arrow hawkeye hit colossus with was a localized nuke, and it knocked him down after colossus beat the crap outa thor and iron man

you cant catch exodus of gaurd unless your prof X, wich gravatron isnt.

as soon as gravatron does anything exodus mind blasts him or makes hiom think he is a little girl.

gravatron is down, for a while

doomsday heads straight for wonderman, seeing him to be like superman DD would relize a possible threat and beat him sensless

wonderman is down

colossus heads for puma grabbing him and crushing him like a tin can

puma is down

bishop tries to do something to vision and gets smoked

bishop is down

gambit thows exploding things at carnage, wich cause fire and loud noises wich carnage is terified of

carnage is down

Hawkeye tries to hit wildchild with arrows, wildchild dodges arrows until he is close enough to rip hawkeye to shreds

hawkeye is down

scourge shoots at blade, blade gets tired of scourge and shoots back, while runing up to scourge, blade takes bullets but he gets his sword into scourge

blade and scorge are down.

so after that it would be colossus wildchild doomsday gambit exodus and blade VS vision and a weak minded gravatron who thinks hes a 6 year old girl

"gambit thows exploding things at carnage, wich cause fire and loud noises wich carnage is terified of

carnage is down"

gambit has kinetic energy it is not fire

carnage would murder gambit (only talking about theis fight right now)

o and by the way, hawkeye and vision where there when the avengers got there asses handed to them by Exodus

gravatron is strong ill give you that, but he has no way of defending himself against Exodus

Originally posted by norrin radd
"gambit thows exploding things at carnage, wich cause fire and loud noises wich carnage is terified of

carnage is down"

gambit has kinetic energy it is not fire

carnage would murder gambit (only talking about theis fight right now)

gravatron would not beable to hold down my team because exodus would destroy his mind, not shut it down, but destroy it. i read gravitrons bio, and it wasnt that impressive, exodus has done similar things they have both held down the avengers, and preformed other tasks wile doing so. exodus and gravatron would probably go at it for a while, but during that time doomsday would destroy the rest of the team

Graviton held all of earths heroes suspended, you think the telepaths weren't trying to take him down then? Exodus doesn't have to be caught by surprise, gravitons move at the speed of light.

so does doomsday....

and it doesnt matter if gravety is suspending exodus, he is still just as dangerous then. he could kill of the members of scoobs team wile being suspended.

and gravatron has no defence against telepaths, the holding the world down was like a loophole for the sake of story line, if he was that powerful he would rule the world

Since when does Doomsday move at the speed of light?? I don't think graviton should hold Exodus up, I think he should pin him down. He still has a human body, and if his heart stops beating he's in trouble. The same goes for everyone else on your team except colossus and doomsday.

ummm doomsday is faster than superman, and superman is realy frikin close to light speed, and exodus's thoughts also move at the speed of light, gravatron would be usless by the time he had exodus pinned down long enough to kill him, and it does not say anywhere in his bio that he can hold down anyone as strong as doomsday, the most gravatron did was thor, and he isnt even close to DD

hi im new, but im rather knowlageable about comics, well marvel anyway

this tournement looks cool can i join?
but i looked at the 2 team here, and crazyspinzs team looks better, i dont know much about doomsday, but i know he killed superman, and thats realy hard. and i know colossus is very strong and exodus is a crzy pwrful telepath, and i dont realt understand why people thing gravatron could do anything to him, i know grav is strong but i dont think he has everface anyone as powerfull as doomsday and exodus b4

oops edit out

Since when is Doomsday FASTER than Superman?? Stronger? MAYBE. No way is he faster. Exodus can't destroy or turn off or otherwise disable Graviton's mind. He can give him trouble, maybe limit him to using his power in only one way at a time instead of four, but he can't put Graviton out with telepathy alone. Graviton could conceivably eliminate your whole team except DD and Colossus and slow down those two considerably. At some point, even Colossus has to succumb to intense gravity fields.

making mistakes already??? lol jk

welcome to KMC and im glad to see that somone agrees with me,

i would consiter gravatron more on magnetos level, i wouldnt even place him in the same category as superman and doomsday, if he can so easily beat everyone he would have taken over the marvel earth easily, but he cant, he only held down earths heroes for story lines sake, he has never again showed nearly that much power

Originally posted by Khellendros
Since when is Doomsday FASTER than Superman?? Stronger? MAYBE. No way is he faster. Exodus can't destroy or turn off or otherwise disable Graviton's mind. He can give him trouble, maybe limit him to using his power in only one way at a time instead of four, but he can't put Graviton out with telepathy alone. Graviton could conceivably eliminate your whole team except DD and Colossus and slow down those two considerably. At some point, even Colossus has to succumb to intense gravity fields.

read any good bio on DD, it says he is at least as fast as supes.

first off have u ever read any comics with exodus in them? if u have u should know that he is more than just a telepath, he is almost as good as Xman and cable, infact he almost beat nate grey. and exodus could take care of most of his team at the same time as battle with graviton, hes shown much better multi tasking ability than graviton, he encased a small country in a force feild, and beat down the avengers at the same time.

and im not aying exodus would beat graviton, but it would take all of gravitons concentration to take down exodus, mean wile all colossus or doomsday would need it one punch and graviton is dead, and the est is easy fter that.

if anyone can prove me wrong, please do.