Spidey's webbing isn't unbreakable, but people sure have a harder time getting rid of it than that lasso. If Spidey can trap Wonder Woman right, all that muscular power she has isn't generated - it's cut off at the source. Spiderman just starts wailing on her. (The real Spidey would walk off, but we're assuming Spidey with intent t kill). Again, terrain really matters with Spiderman: if he's in a city, I think he takes the win. If not, I think he loses pretty bad.
Originally posted by x_danny_x
how can you say wonder woman isnt hot.!!!remember Lynda Carter who played Wonder Woman! That girl had a smoking body in younger days
wish I was Batman in this case. Heck in some of the comics, she give hints that she likes Batman
Originally posted by ArekExcelsior2
Spidey's webbing isn't unbreakable, but people sure have a harder time getting rid of it than that lasso. If Spidey can trap Wonder Woman right, all that muscular power she has isn't generated - it's cut off at the source. Spiderman just starts wailing on her. (The real Spidey would walk off, but we're assuming Spidey with intent t kill). Again, terrain really matters with Spiderman: if he's in a city, I think he takes the win. If not, I think he loses pretty bad.
WW is Class 100. The webbing is gonna break like string putty. WW's faster, stronger and a much better fighter. Spidey doesn't stand a chance.
God Spider-Man is EXTREMELY overrated in this forum.
Originally posted by Draco69
WW is Class 100. The webbing is gonna break like string putty. WW's faster, stronger and a much better fighter. Spidey doesn't stand a chance.God Spider-Man is EXTREMELY overrated in this forum.
Wonder Woman isn't faster than Spider-man. If you read current comics you will see that she moves slower than molasses. She gets hit by many slower beings (Such as Mongul). She only shows speed when blocking projectiles. She's not even bullet proof. Spiderman is known to move the speed of sound when under intense stress (becoming a blur, invisible, or multiples of himself). Also, technically, Spidey cannot get hit. Marvel says that Spider-man's spidersense jerks his body out of the way (sometimes before the attack happens) without his knowledge. Writers have him getting hit to add adversity. Spider-man is greatly underestimated because of these faulty writers. Technically, Spider-man is superior to most super powered beings. Wonder woman is too vulnerable for her to withstand Spidey's might. He can potentially go to class 100 strength (Also a fact from Marvel). To refute me one has to show how Wonder Woman can hit Spider-man and how she can not get hit by him as well. They must show these things to prove that Wonder-Woman can win.
Originally posted by Draco69
She's terribly overlooked. Her powers are dramatically downplayed in this forum. She never gets a worthy opponent. Spider-Man, Vixen, Wolverine, Penance...
She may be somewhat overlooked but Spider-man is superior to most super powered beings and is a very worthy opponent. So worthy is him that he beats her easily if he's under high stress. Read the post above this one to find out how.
In this argument I will assume spidey has great determination with stress to stop and he ignores the fact that wonder-woman is a female and doesn't underestimate her abilities. Otherwise he can't win.
If wonder woman is faster (syke!) then why does she move so slow in the comics and on tv. People like Grundy, Aquaman, Mongul and other sloweys always hit her. She only shows speed when she blocks bullets and other projectiles (this implies she is not bulletproof and has questionable durability to concussive force-like Thor). I never seen her move like spider-man (multiples of himself at one time and also becoming a blur at times). She can travel (by flying) faster but certainly not move in a fight faster (all the comics will support me on this). Second, only true spidey fans know that class 10 is not spidey's limit but his under regular circumstances limit. He has shown to brace a multistory building (I've seen the pics from this comic) while being under tremendous stress. Marvel even said that his strength can go into uncharted territory when he is under tremendous stress. Firelord is a cosmic being who has tremendous durability (more than wonder-woman) This guy has taken hits from Drax without a problem. This is friggin Drax for crying out loud (much comparable to Mongul in brute strength if not more). But Spidey was shown under tremendous anger and stress to pummel Firelord with punches in which he defeated him. I'm sorry but that is an amazing feat.
1. If one argues that wonder-woman wins (I'm not saying she can't) then they have to explain how she can hit spidey (I've seen spidey dodge lasers. His ss alerts him even before the attack).
2. Second, one must explain that if spidey is very determined and stressed how is wonder-woman going to take his fury and still stand. But to be honest both have a chance of winning (even spider-man)
So whoever replies or posts next in regards to wonder-woman then please you must refute those two reasons above or your argument will be weak and invalid.
Originally posted by h1a8
In this argument I will assume spidey has great determination with stress to stop and he ignores the fact that wonder-woman is a female and doesn't underestimate her abilities. Otherwise he can't win.If wonder woman is faster (syke!) then why does she move so slow in the comics and on tv. People like Grundy, Aquaman, Mongul and other sloweys always hit her. She only shows speed when she blocks bullets and other projectiles (this implies she is not bulletproof and has questionable durability to concussive force-like Thor). I never seen her move like spider-man (multiples of himself at one time and also becoming a blur at times). She can travel (by flying) faster but certainly not move in a fight faster (all the comics will support me on this). Second, only true spidey fans know that class 10 is not spidey's limit but his under regular circumstances limit. He has shown to brace a multistory building (I've seen the pics from this comic) while being under tremendous stress. Marvel even said that his strength can go into uncharted territory when he is under tremendous stress. Firelord is a cosmic being who has tremendous durability (more than wonder-woman) This guy has taken hits from Drax without a problem. This is friggin Drax for crying out loud (much comparable to Mongul in brute strength if not more). But Spidey was shown under tremendous anger and stress to pummel Firelord with punches in which he defeated him. I'm sorry but that is an amazing feat.
1. If one argues that wonder-woman wins (I'm not saying she can't) then they have to explain how she can hit spidey (I've seen spidey dodge lasers. His ss alerts him even before the attack).
2. Second, one must explain that if spidey is very determined and stressed how is wonder-woman going to take his fury and still stand. But to be honest both have a chance of winning (even spider-man)
So whoever replies or posts next in regards to wonder-woman then please you must refute those two reasons above or your argument will be weak and invalid.
I happen to agree with a lot of what you're saying, and I believe a lot of your questions and observations can be summed up with three letters: PIS.
Unfortunately, much like Superman, writers are not consistent in their display of WW's power level. The overall sense, however, is that she is second in strength only to Superman (she helped tow the moon, ey), and while not bullet-(or arrow!) proof, she has taken punches from Superman and has also endured his heat vision. (Frankly, IMO, if she isn't bulletproof, she shouldn't be able to handle either, but hey, PIS.)
In any event, I feel that she is superior to Spiderman in strength, speed and durability. Fighting skill, I would make them equal, if for different reasons. Spiderman has his spider-sense and his webbing, the latter which he doesn't have to necessarily use to bind her, just distract her.
I tend to see this fight as her doing a lotta swinging and missing; him getting in blows but she endures them with no real/lasting injury.
In the end, WW wins.
Originally posted by Draco69
WW is Class 100. The webbing is gonna break like string putty. WW's faster, stronger and a much better fighter. Spidey doesn't stand a chance.God Spider-Man is EXTREMELY overrated in this forum.
Sir may I be the first and possibly last to commend you on that remark.
I have been saying this since I have been a member here and people kept calling me a fascist Spiderman hater.
Thank You again sir
Originally posted by who?-kid
And why does she at times have trouble with Batman and Deathstroke ?
Sir any attempt by a decent and honorable writer to pass that notion off to smart readers is a damn fool and charlatan.
I mean even if I read that crap in a book, some things purely don't make sense
As far as Batman, I don't know if you notice but Batman as of late has been portrayed as more than a mere man on several occasions.
I mean for some writers to even postulate the idea that Bats has a chance in hell of lasting a nanosecond against Clark is a damn joke and please I can go on forever about that. Deathstroke I guess in theory makes sense but does it matter is you can predict what WW is gonna do b4 she does it? Your dead anyway.
That's just logic right there
The funny thing is, then you have a thread where people will argue that Daredevil (eg) has an excellent chance against Spider-Man. Is a Daredevil vs Wonder Woman thread not far behind?
WW > SM > DD. Different classes, and only some truly clever PIS would allow an Inferior to make an acceptably good showing against a Superior.