Convince me FF7 was the best one ever.

Started by Draco695 pages

There was lack of characterization in FF6. Something things about their past did not make sense. Seltzer had absolutely no history what so ever. The characters had only a very brief synopsis about their history; one defining moment about them. That's it. No motivation, no aspirations, no why's or what's. The story was extremely good. But the characters were shallow. The huge cast made it worst.

The religion controversy in FF10 was well done. The people of Spira were ingrained with a false sense of purpose and servitude towards Yevon. Some might call this an atheistic agenda others may call it a example of religous propaganda. It touched on touchy issues. The characters were not all the same. They had different beliefs and different perspectives on Yevon. Wakka was extremely devout. Lulu was devout but pensieve. Rikku was against Yevon. And Kimahri and Auron just plain didn't give a sh** about the matter. The characters were diverse and had deep psychological/moral issues embedded within them. They had many layers of personalities.

The enemy wasn't really Sin. The enemy was their own religion. Their entire religious upbringing was a total lie and farce. Imagine if Christianity was proven to be a lie. Millions of people would be devastated. Sin was just a metaphor for corruption. Power, prestige and greed were the sources for corruption.

All in all the story was WAY deeper than FF6. An educated person would have field day analyzing the FF10's story.

I have to disagree with you on the characterization aspect of FF6.

The main characters in FF6 (Lock, Cyan, Edgar, Terra, Sabin, and of course, Kefka) were developed beautifully. By the end of the game I felt as if they were characters from a movie that I had identified with and come to actually know and love. The supporting characters weren't developed as well because, frankly, they were support characters. However, they all had some back story of some sort, and all had their own type of personality, which is more then I can say about FF8, which had the worst character development out of any FF game I played. During FF8 I felt nothing for most of the characters, they were pixels in a video game for me, nothing more.

As far as the story goes, I enjoy the more simplistic story of FF6 more then the overly complicated stories of some of the later games. It made it more believable and left more time for developing the hatred between the hero's and Kefka.

It's no secret that I think Kefka is the most well developed characters in the entire game, actually probably in the entire FF series, he was the only video game villian I actually despised for his actions. He was blatantly evil and had no other little agenda for his actions, he was a Hitler type characters who had caused pain to all of the characters we had come to know and love. The final battle between the heroes and Kefka is still the most tense boss fight I have ever experienced.

That's your opinion. I played the game at age 17, so I guess the magic was lost on me.

But it's nice we can all agree that FF8 was the worst Final Fantasy ever.

Perhaps some of the magic is lost if you didn't play it when it was initially released. Because at the tiem of release there was no other game like it, it was amazing for it's time.

All right Advent children was suppose to come out in America winter 2004 but I haven't heard anything about it for a while..I'm in the dark!

So can someone help me about when the release date of it is? Or if it's already came out and I'm just blind?

FF Advent children looks to be like a very promising movie...from what the trailer shows it should be awesome. It's based off of VII because it has some characters like Cloud Strife, Vincent, and Barette.

The game might not be the best but if there was ever a FF game to be made into a movie this or X would have to be the best choice.

Again. Death to the series.

Originally posted by Dogbert
Again. Death to the series.

Not going to happen as long as they continue to be the best selling RPG's on the market.

Yeah. Don't diss Final Fantasy! Dissing Final Fantasy makes Draco ANGRY. You no like Draco when Draco ANGRY. YAAAAAARGH!!!!

Originally posted by Phoenix Aska
All right Advent children was suppose to come out in America winter 2004 but I haven't heard anything about it for a while..I'm in the dark!

So can someone help me about when the release date of it is? Or if it's already came out and I'm just blind?

FF Advent children looks to be like a very promising movie...from what the trailer shows it should be awesome. It's based off of VII because it has some characters like Cloud Strife, Vincent, and Barette.

The game might not be the best but if there was ever a FF game to be made into a movie this or X would have to be the best choice.

I was checking on clips ( my friends are REALLY into ff7 advent)

it looks alright, despite a few pet peeves. like why does marlene look asian while barret looks black? and why does Reno look like such a wimp?

also, if they dub it they better do a really good job.

oh and I actually understand what they say in the japanese trailers.
yah a friend of mine used to live in Japan. knows Japanese.

not gonan spoil it, but

stuff about "we can revive Sephiroth"...

Originally posted by BackFire
I have to disagree with you on the characterization aspect of FF6.

The main characters in FF6 (Lock, Cyan, Edgar, Terra, Sabin, and of course, Kefka) were developed beautifully. By the end of the game I felt as if they were characters from a movie that I had identified with and come to actually know and love. The supporting characters weren't developed as well because, frankly, they were support characters. However, they all had some back story of some sort, and all had their own type of personality, which is more then I can say about FF8, which had the worst character development out of any FF game I played. During FF8 I felt nothing for most of the characters, they were pixels in a video game for me, nothing more.

As far as the story goes, I enjoy the more simplistic story of FF6 more then the overly complicated stories of some of the later games. It made it more believable and left more time for developing the hatred between the hero's and Kefka.

It's no secret that I think Kefka is the most well developed characters in the entire game, actually probably in the entire FF series, he was the only video game villian I actually despised for his actions. He was blatantly evil and had no other little agenda for his actions, he was a Hitler type characters who had caused pain to all of the characters we had come to know and love. The final battle between the heroes and Kefka is still the most tense boss fight I have ever experienced.

especially when hes a horribe mosnter dude 12 stories high.

they already made final fantasy x and x-2 into an animated movie...i didnt buy it though...you can check it out on e-bay

huh?

...bump

Originally posted by Robo-Chocobo
I was checking on clips ( my friends are REALLY into ff7 advent)

it looks alright, despite a few pet peeves. like why does marlene look asian while barret looks black? and why does Reno look like such a wimp?

also, if they dub it they better do a really good job.

oh and I actually understand what they say in the japanese trailers.
yah a friend of mine used to live in Japan. knows Japanese.

not gonan spoil it, but

stuff about "we can revive Sephiroth"...

yeah I know..they have a trailer in English too 😛

and I forgot about them already making X-2 in an animated movie..it looks like garbage to me...

It is possible for Marlene to look Asian if Barret had sex with an asian women...maybe she just took on more of her mother's side..and Reno looked scrawny in the game...I mean Cloud looks weak too..he has small arms...

yeah that's Sephiroth in the funny wheel chair if you haven't figured it out yet...

and you said all that but still didn't answer my question Robo! 😆

no one has any clue what the release date is. Japan hates us. haven't you figured that out? hence why the game has slowly moved away from a europeanish setting with the castles and such to a more ansian look.( okay so it maybe for a reason besides japan hates us 😛)

the release date for Japan was summer of last year and they got it!

The release date for America was suppose to be winter of last year but it looks like we might not get it until spring..at the earliest...

Originally posted by Phoenix Aska

and I forgot about them already making X-2 in an animated movie..it looks like garbage to me...
They're doing what? Where did you hear that? Any links for information?
Originally posted by Phoenix Aska

yeah that's Sephiroth in the funny wheel chair if you haven't figured it out yet...

and you said all that but still didn't answer my question Robo! 😆

No it's not, it's
Spoiler:
Rufus, hence the Turks guarding him, and him being referred to as "Mr. President"

Originally posted by Phoenix Aska
the release date for Japan was summer of last year and they got it!

The release date for America was suppose to be winter of last year but it looks like we might not get it until spring..at the earliest...

Advent Children is not out in Japan yet. It has also been delayed in Japan. The first trailer, that came out in what, September 2003 said Summer 04... but that was quickly changed to fall, then winter, then postponed to Spring 2005, for Japan as well as America.

I dunno.. ff7 didnt appeal to me right off the bat because I was expecting something that would equal or rival 6.. but after knowing its supposed to be different each time, it grew on me.

Hey!
Check it out!