Hercules vs. The Thing

Started by Wynndar3 pages

yea i just havent seen Herc demolish anyone near Thing's level in the way some of these people are depicting. I mean Herc loses to Hulk...BIG TIME...modern Thing fights Hulk to a stand still in Hulk's own comic last time they fought. Stop hating on the Thing...sure he would lose, but it would be a good fight.....not a curb stomp.

True, but lets look at this....Hulk is top 3 of marvels most famous people.
Hercules is like bottem 100....only a few people know him, and they only know him as the bumbling goofball from Thor.

But the dude probably starts off twice or more the strength of Hulk, why should he ever lose to him? Because he's the Hulk.

Herc should stomp Hulk into the ground but its like comic politics.

Herc -should- be able to handle basically anyone in a h2h fight.

i think ur seriously underestimating the base strength of the Hulk...

I'm pretty sure it starts out around 80-90 range.
Abomination is much stronger than Hulk's base, thats why Abom' nearly killed him a few times. Jugs is also above Hulks base strength.

That's the impression i've always been under and others have agreed.

I didn't realize we were talking about the new now mortal Herc, he'd still win but he'd be more cautious.

when has Hulk demonstrated class 80 strength? that is ridiculous...Hulk is Marvel's image of strength, he has never demonstrated a deficiency of strength. Grey Hulk and Grey Hulk alone started out considerably lower, but every Hulk that was green had 100+ strength and never proved to be deficient


Strength Level: The Hulk possesses superhuman strength of the Class 100 level, enabling him to lift (press) in excess of 100 tons. The Hulk only attains this strength level when he is enraged. In a totally, calm state his functional strength is significantly less, perhaps in the 70 ton range. In human form Bruce Banner possesses the normal human strength of a man of his age, height, and build who engages in no regular exercise.

Abomination is over savage Hulk's strength, and Abom is only in the 100+ class.
He nearly killed Hulk, because of how low his strength starts out.

Originally posted by long pig
Abomination is over savage Hulk's strength, and Abom is only in the 100+ class.
He nearly killed Hulk, because of how low his strength starts out.

bastard. I was just about to post that quote 🙁

~wickerman~

almost killed Hulk in the sixties? Wonderman has beaten Abomination. Thats not even a logical argument anyway. Abomination could be able to lift 10000 tons and be twice as strong as Hulk's base. However, none of this is the case. Abominations Base strength is only a little higher than the Hulk's...it was in Abomination's first appearance that he was twice the Hulk's strength...in that same story, Bruce Banner drained gamma radiation off of him cutting his power in half. Nonetheless, this was just an antiquated plot device considering Hulk has long demonstrated he is one of the Strongest in the MU and has the potential for limitless strength. I say Abom has base strength because MODOK once proved that Abomination also has the potential to increase his strength, but instead of anger, Abom's augmentation if dependent on fear.

You just dodged the actual point that we were talking about.
I know what Abom did and can do, that was a side point.

The real point was Hulk starts out well below 100.
And he does. Lower than I thought, 70 tons.

No...Grey Hulk did..all Green incarnations were 100+

That was the profile of savage hulk.
savage is green.

what profile? ur profile u just made?

No.
This one.
MD

Marvel Directory is not official its as official as me making a website and say Hulk's base strength is 150 billion tons cuz he did it in secret wars...why dont u go to leader's lair for Hulk's strength stats if u want unofficial profiles.

ooookkkkkk.
Your beloved hulk is the strongest ever and beats everyones ass all the time. better?

Originally posted by long pig
ooookkkkkk.
Your beloved hulk is the strongest ever and beats everyones ass all the time. better?

i bet spiderman can take him down. (fanboys FTW 👆 )

~wickerman~

Originally posted by long pig
No.
This one.
MD

I'm not trying to bag on you long pig, but there is a reason that the guy writing the description of HULK's stats said he was perhaps in the 70 tons range. Because he really has no clue. and he is guessing. Never have i seen HULK's base any lower than CL100 outside of Grey and Mr. Fixit.
😎

Originally posted by K3VIL
SS you're wrong.
Do you forget what Class 100 means?
Example:
Colossuss is a low level Class 100 member.
Thor is a higher level Class 100 member.
Hercules at full power can outmatch Thor's strenght(but Mjolnir would make the difference), Hercules at 50% power is a higher level Class 100 member of par with Thor without the hammer.

Exactly. And by the Way Thing has been stated many times to now be a low-level class 100 as well.

The lowest strength Herc ever was at was CL 85 and that was in the early 90's in the Post-onslaught saga when he had long hair. And the only reason he was at such a low-level was because his dad took away his immortality and god-hood, therefore he was just a normal man with cl 85 strength.

These are his cl 85 versions:

Every other version is either a high CL 100 (which is when he was stripped to 50% of his power) or has incalculable strength.