mudvayne all the way dude. slipknot puts on a killer live show, but none of them have talent. the guitarists and bassists riffs all sound almost exactly the same, all their drummer knows how to do is play fast double bass rolls, and all corey can do is scream horribly, dont even get me started on sid. mudvayne's bassist ryan martinie is so good, i reccomend downloading mudvayne songs and solo's from this dude, he is the best. i give props to both bands for being original and not caring what the media thinks of them. both bands are dope.