Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, and the Hulk vs. The Fantasic four

Started by Alpha Centauri3 pages

Captain America, despite me thinking he's extremely cheap and annoying, is without doubt a great fighter and tactician. His team would be formidible but assuming they all work together, it'd come close.

I think, for reasons people have already stated, that the F4 could nail it. Could go either way though. The longer it goes on, the more chance Cap's team have to win.

-AC

The Hulk alone can give the FF some trouble. Throw in heavy hitters like Thor and Iron Man (and Captain America bossing everyone around) and the FF is done for.

thing and thor fought before wyndarr? when? who won?

anyway as to the thread:

reed richards is a genius, but so is tony plus you got the tactical genius of capt. america.

thor,hulk,and ironman all outclass torch.
sue would basically be playing defense here. she would be effective against ironman and cap, but there's no way she could stand up against thor or hulk.
the only one i think reed could beat here is capt a, and that's a BIG maybe. that fight could go either way.
thing is weaker than ironman,hulk,and thor.

all in all, the avengers win big time.

He's not weaker than Iron Man! Iron man can only sustain super-heavy weight levels of strength for like a few minutes before his suit craps out.

Either way it think Thor and Hulk alone would mash up on the FF 9 out of 10 so long as Thor kept saying "Be that as hard as though can smash? Thou hardly smashed him at all!"

come on guys. Aint no argument here. The Hulk has single handlely fought the FF. Throw in Thor and the contest is well won. Throw in cap and Iron man and it's a masacar! Thor is way stronger than the thing.

Yep I say cap would be easily dealt with by torch cuz the shield can't protect his whole body from the heat/fire. Sue would definitely use a forcefield, but since she feels the hits it would take by Thor, Iron Man, and Hulk she won't last long. Reed would be inhaled by hulk again. Hulk would use one of those claps that puts out torch, and if that didn't work, theres still the fact he has to deal with 2 fliers being Iron Man and Thor. Thing would last the longest imo, but that's still not long against Hulk Thor and Iron Man imo... If torch goes nova he would probably take out iron man and cap (if cap was still a factor), but the last time I checked going nova uses up all his power in one burst, so he's screwed after that.

the avengers style team

this is stupid should be more like HUlk vs FF4 , or Thor vs FF4 then we have a fight and even then hulk and thor will still win only person they have to fear is reed and his marbel(brain) , Other than that other are toast.

IM whould redirect super nova energy to his weapon system and will explode Human torch head with one punch, Thorn will turn Thing to dust with mjolnir, Hulk will do some knot of Richard and invisible woman should use his power to escape the combat place if she don't want to became invisible pieces like all the rest of his team.

This fight has 3 of the heaviest hitters Marvel and the Avengers have ever employed, PLUS the tactical strategy of Captain America directing the battle, going against some really nice heroes who are ALL outclassed in some way here.

Avengers all the way. I don't even see this as much of a contest.

Depends on the situation. Pre-knowledge of the battle, FF would have a chance. Random encounter they'd go down with ease.

You're probably right about that. If there's one guy in ANY comic universe who could take 15 minutes worth of prep-time and develop the perfect cosmic superduperflammerjamm ray to defeat these 4, it is Reed Richards. But walking in the door and throwing up dukes, there's no contest.

If you give 15 min on every side, Stark can handle Richard prep-plan.
So same issue.

what if thor joined the original defenders?
. . . just let that sink in. . .

Original defenders were one of the strongest teams in Marvel...

hmm you only need one of them to beat F4 and it any of them other than cap

I disagree with that. Black Panther beat FF all by himself, and Cap is a little better than Panther. I think any of these guys could beat FF if they had to.

Captain America would probably beat F4 on his own based on the fact that he hasn't lost one on one in years and years.

The F4 powers wise have enough to take out Capt easily. Also Iron-Man.

-AC

Originally posted by Draco69
Thor and the Hulk are two of the strongest and most powerful superheroes in the Marvel Universe. The only one above them is the Silver Surfer.
Above the Hulk maybe, but not above Thor.

Originally posted by Draco69
Sue Richards is an incredibly powerful woman but she pales before them. The other FF4 members aren't even a factor. Any forcefield she creates would be shattered.
I wouldn't count Sue out...true she would be playing defense, but it would be a strong one. Don't underestimate the strength of her forcefield...she was once able to protect all of Manhattan in space when Earth was under attack by Terrax the Destroyer. At one time she was also strong enough to keep Apocalypse at bay, using her forcefield, and he's no walk in the park either.

On paper this may look like a one-sided affair, but you have to remember that the Fantastic Four are the ultimate superhero team. They are what the Avengers and X-Men aspire to be. Eventually this team of Avengers would probably win...but it would be a hard fought victory, nowhere close to a cake walk.

This would be a awsome battle to see, I dont know who to lean towards just yet lets see some facts here though:

-Reed is by far the genious here, Tony is smart , but pales in comparison to Reed.
-Hulk has taken on the entire FF team before with excellent results
-Torch does have a extreamly powerful attack (probably the most powerful in the bunch) with his Nova blast. But can only use it once, then he's practicly powerless for some time
-Captain A is the best fighter of the bunch, and even though he might not be able to really harm Reed, a few smacks in Reeds kisser with his shield would sure daze him
-Invisible Woman is probably the most underated person here. She has a huge arsenal of abilities with her powers, and might get overlooked
-Thor's hammer has practlcly a unlimited amount tricks itself, not just call lighting and smack some heads.

So maybe I just might barely give this one to the avengers ..barely

couldnt get Sue in the pic