Karate Kid vs Mister Fantastic

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Karate Kid vs Mister Fantastic

Do you think Karate Kid will be able to hurt Reeds?

Absolutely, KK all the way.

Anymore thoughts?

hell no, he's only human, and reed can absorb impact.

Daniel-san will go crane on Mr. Fantastic!

Originally posted by baddspellahl4
hell no, he's only human, and reed can absorb impact.

Karate Kid would win. He may be 'human,' but he has studied all forms of martial arts in the known galaxy (he is from the future -the year 2966- and came to our present).
Karate Kid is skilled in every form of combat known in the galaxy, from boxing to savate to kendo. He has also made it a point to become an expert with every weapon used in hand-to-hand combat, from fencing foils to Jovian Trident spears to Krishnu gauntlets from Gaman Tol. The Legion normally excludes heroes who use weapons, but with Val they are only a sideline. Super-karate is his specialty, and with it he has done super-human things. By building up the amount of chi (life-energy) into his body Karate Kid can increase his strength, speed, endurance and toughness .
He was admitted to the Legion of Superheroes after standing up to Superboy in a fight.
Reed would have no chance in a fight against Karate Kid. This dude makes Shiva Woosan and Batgirl seem like punks.
The only way Reed could win is if he used his mind. That way Reed would have a shot.
However if Reed wore his spandex and tried to stretch around KK then the fight (if it can even be called that) would be over before it even started.
When it comes to martial arts two names stand out. In Marvel it is Shang Chi. In DC it is Karate Kid.
All others have to kneel (be they Black Panther and Capt America or Batman and Deathstroke).
Reed would also be on bended knee.
Karate Kid would beat him up so badly that he would lose his elasticity.

what about iron fist for your list?
no martial artist can take down mr fantastic regardless of increased strength, if bullets don't hurt him fists wont either it's a no contest match up reed would cream him

Originally posted by Scoobless
what about iron fist for your list?
no martial artist can take down mr fantastic regardless of increased strength, if bullets don't hurt him fists wont either it's a no contest match up reed would cream him

One problem...Karate Kid hits HARDER then bullets.

Karate Kid is skilled in every form of combat known in the galaxy, from boxing to savate to kendo. He has also made it a point to become an expert with every weapon used in hand-to-hand combat, from fencing foils to Jovian Trident spears to Krishnu gauntlets from Gaman Tol. The Legion normally excludes heroes who use weapons, but with Val they are only a sideline. Super-karate is his specialty, and with it he has done super-human things. By building up the amount of chi (life-energy) into his body Karate Kid can increase his strength, speed, endurance and toughness (AD 367). Karate Kid has stated that if Superboy took up karate, the Boy of Steel might be able to punch through a foot-thick slab of Manganium Inertron, a he normally cannot do (AD 367). Using this force, in application with his knowledge of points of stress and weakness (AD 346), Karate Kid has:

Cracked through the hull of the Khund flagship (AD 347), stopped a runaway sport-speedster with one blow (AD 351), knocked out a Jovian Mastodon with one chop (AD 358), cracked through the powerful, six-inch Durlamite gates of the Metroplois Jail (AD 360), damaged tanks with a two-handed chop (AD 360, AD 367), kicked away an air car from the path of a falling boulder (AD 361), split a rock in two and took out an opponent with each piece (AD 361), fought a half-dozen assailants at one time (AD 358, AD 361, AD 367) and stamped the ground with both feet, shaking a whole street and knocking a dozen soldiers off their feet (AD 367).

Once when he was trapped inside a giant hollow diamond, Val located its natural flaw and used his iron will to coax his body to make one final chop which shattered the gem (AD 365).

damn, daniel san moved the f-ck up didnt he?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
One problem...Karate Kid hits HARDER then bullets.

it doesn't matter how hard he hit's, it'd be like punching water. and i only used bullets as an example, it's not like bullets are the upper limit of reeds resistance, just an unfortunatley very well known weapon that is easily understandable as something that humans can't take without injury

you talking about the movie karate kid or the Karate kid in the Legion of Superheroes...

Legion of Superheroes.

Originally posted by Scoobless
it doesn't matter how hard he hit's, it'd be like punching water. and i only used bullets as an example, it's not like bullets are the upper limit of reeds resistance, just an unfortunatley very well known weapon that is easily understandable as something that humans can't take without injury

So by your logic Hulk couldn't hurt Mr. Fantastic.

...Both Dare Devil and Wolverine have hurt Reed with blunt force

Originally posted by Scoobless
what about iron fist for your list?
no martial artist can take down mr fantastic regardless of increased strength, if bullets don't hurt him fists wont either it's a no contest match up reed would cream him

Iron fist is great. As is MoonDragon. And obviously characters like Shiva Woosan and Batgirl (the Cassandra Cain batgirl who can kick Batman's behind) are greats. Deathstroke is deadly and Elektra magnificent. Daredevil acrobatic and Azrael mysterious. And Richard Dragon is second in command at DC.
But in the end it always boils down to Shang Chi in Marvel, and Karate Kid in DC. (Iron Fist knows many martial arts, including one mystic one that allows him to channel his Chi into his 'iron fist' attack. Karate Kid, on the other hand, knows ALL martial arts in the UNIVERSE, and has Chi attacks that would make Iron Fist go ga-ga. Karate Kid is as beyond Iron Fist as Iron Fist is beyond Mary Jane - probably more).
Iron Fist is a great, and his energy fist technique has amazing potence. But he would be dismantled by Shang Chi and humiliated by Karate Kid.
As for fists being unable to hurt Reed, you might be surprised to learn that Wolverine and DareDevil have hurt him.
If Wolverine's adamantium-laced fists, and DareDevil's all too human ones, can hurt Reed, what in the blazes do you think Karate Kid could do to him?
Seriously speaking Reed would literally lose his elasticity once Karate Kid was done with him.
The only chance for Reed would be to keep his distance away from Karate Kid, and try to use his mind to come up with some stratagem or weapon. Then he MIGHT have a chance.
Or he could flee to another dimension.

Maybe Karate Kid has this wacky nerve pinch attack.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So by your logic Hulk couldn't hurt Mr. Fantastic.

That's not quite the thrust of that post.

wax on, wax off

if mr fantastic was to will his body into a supple enough form i don't think a punch from the hulk would hurt him..... just move him, like if you punch a towel on a washing line. mr F could wrap himself around this karate guy and suffocate him (like he tried with the hulk in contest of champions 2)