Snake Eyes, Stormshadow, Quick Kick, & Jinx VS Batman, Robin, Nightwing, & Bat Girl

Nightstick Senior Member

The Fight takes place in an empty parking lot. Every one is wearing work clothes/martial arts attire. No weapon, no gadgets. This is Cain Batgirl and Drake Robin.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Snake-eyes and Stormshadow could win with out Quick Kick or Jinx... and pretty easily I think.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Snake-eyes and Stormshadow could win with out Quick Kick or Jinx... and pretty easily I think.

Quick Kick would be kicked quick by Nightwing, and Jinx would face a load of bad luck after meeting Robin. Thus this fight would be between Batman and Batgirl versus StormShadow and SnakeEyes.
However it is the bat team that would win.
StormShadow and SnakeEyes are member of the Arashikage clan of Ninjitsu. And they are quite good ninjas (and to be honest the only thing in GI Joe that is not pathetic. The rest of the characters, both good and bad, seem to miss everything they try to shoot at - unless, ofcourse, the target is a robot, in which case they are crackshots).
StormShadow and SnakeEyes give some modicum of respect to GI Joe, which is a good thing.
Now, on the other team we have Batman and BatGirl. Batman is said to have learnt all major styles of combat (he is said to know 127 styles), and ninjitsu is a major style. Batman may not be a master in Ninjitsu (to the level of the Arashikage blood brothers above), but he knows enough to know what they will come after him with. But Batman has two major advantages they do not have.
1) He knows more styles than they do. The Arashikage blood bros are masters of Ninjitsu. Batman is adept at Ninjitsu, but he also knows 126 other styles on top of that (to make it 127). Batman's knowledge in the martial arts is by far more extensive than that of Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes (and unlike their GI Joe brethren Batman seldom misses).
2) Batman is a certified genius. Batmas IQ might very well be more than that of Snake and Storm combined!
Oh, and Batman has one more advantage:
Batgirl!
Cassandra Cain (the new batgirl) is an even greater problem for the Arashikage duo when it comes to hand to hand combat.
Why?
Because she is better than Batman!
And she is better than Lady Shiva Woosan.
The combination of Batman's extensive combat knowledge and intellect, with Batgirl's intensive combat ability and perfection, would be too much for StormShadow and SnakeEyes.
The Arashikages are out of their league here.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

"Snake-eyes is an expert in all disciplines of martial arts and silent weapons." - This is a quote from a G.I. Joe hand book.

Snake-eyes is also an expert in military periodical and is proficient in most small to medium arms. Before he even trained with the Arashikage ninja clan Snake-eyes' name was classified in the military; now it is even classified in top secret folders that are classified in there own rights. You also need to consider that the Arashikage clan has quasi mystical moves under its belts (i.e. the Arashikage Mindset, The Sleeping Pheonix, The Ear that Sees) and give Storm Shadow and Snake-eyes even more of an edge in striaght skill.

If you think that Batman has a chance do a search for a thread with Snake-eyes in it because there are several I have posted feets in. In all honesty Snake-eyes apprentice Kamakura would beat Batman more often then not.

Tron Shinigami Rep.

Originally posted by spetznaz
StormShadow and SnakeEyes are member of the Arashikage clan of Ninjitsu. And they are quite good ninjas (and to be honest the only thing in GI Joe that is not pathetic. The rest of the characters, both good and bad, seem to miss everything they try to shoot at - unless, ofcourse, the target is a robot, in which case they are crackshots).
StormShadow and SnakeEyes give some modicum of respect to GI Joe, which is a good thing.

Pathetic? You must be forgetting Sgt. Slaughter.

SGT. FREAKIN' SLAUGHTER!!

Maggot.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by Tron
Pathetic? You must be forgetting Sgt. Slaughter.
SGT. FREAKIN' SLAUGHTER!!
Maggot.

LOL. Mea Culpa. Sgt.Slaughter is cool.
LOL

Mainstream lighting the way

Batman and his "kids" take this one.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
"Snake-eyes is an expert in all disciplines of martial arts and silent weapons." - This is a quote from a G.I. Joe hand book.
Snake-eyes is also an expert in military periodical and is proficient in most small to medium arms. Before he even trained with the Arashikage ninja clan Snake-eyes' name was classified in the military; now it is even classified in top secret folders that are classified in there own rights. You also need to consider that the Arashikage clan has quasi mystical moves under its belts (i.e. the Arashikage Mindset, The Sleeping Pheonix, The Ear that Sees) and give Storm Shadow and Snake-eyes even more of an edge in striaght skill.
If you think that Batman has a chance do a search for a thread with Snake-eyes in it because there are several I have posted feets in. In all honesty Snake-eyes apprentice Kamakura would beat Batman more often then not.

According to the GI Joe/Hasbro character files, Snake Eyes is:
"A qualified expert with all NATO and former Warsaw Pact small arms, he is proficient in twelve martial arts systems and a master of the same ninja clan (Arashikage) that produced STORM SHADOW. His one known hobby is collecting spike-handled trench knives. At one time SNAKE EYES and the COBRA ninja STORM SHADOW were sword brothers, but circumstances forced them apart and led STORM SHADOW down the evil road to COBRA. Although others see them as bitter foes, SNAKE EYES looks at the COBRA ninja and sees only the best friend he ever had, so he dreads the day he may have to draw his sword against him in earnest."
Kamakura, who you claim is able to 'beat Batman more often than not' (I hope you were joking) is described as:
"Living under the shadow of SNAKE EYES isn’t an easy thing to do, but it sure keeps KAMAKURA on his toes. As the pupil of the famous GI JOE ninja master, KAMAKURA always strives to do his best, because he knows what a huge responsibility he has as the sole heir to the Arashikage ninja secrets. Well on his way to mastering 12 forms of unarmed combat, he is also highly skilled with the sword, sai, chain and sickle, as well as with the standard issue M-16A2 battle rifle. KAMAKURA doesn’t like to be the center of attention, preferring to remain in the background until the time is right to strike. He’s the same way with conversation, too; he usually keeps quiet, but hanging around SNAKE EYES doesn’t offer much to say, so once you get him started, KAMAKURA has a lot to catch up on. "
Batman, on the other hand, is adept in 127 martial arts and systems. And Batgirl is the better of Batman (according to the DC website they describe her as :
"The daughter of assassin David Cain, Cassandra spent years being molded into the perfect assassin. Denied vocal stimuli, she was trained to communicate with violence. But Cain was unsuccessful in supplanting her conscience, and she eventually escaped, seeking asylum in Gotham. Since then, she has rapidly acquired language skills and made a few very deadly enemies, including Lady Shiva Wu-San, perhaps the greatest martial artist alive. Currently, Batgirl remains one of Batman's secret weapons in his war on crime, operating out of a scaled-down satellite Batcave modified to her needs."
Batman considers her as a secret weapon. This girl (and she is but a mere girl) was the better of Lady Shiva. When she fights she can predict what a person is going to do before they do it by noticing subtle cues in their posture, breathing, body tension, and the like subconsciously. When she learnt how to talk (she couldn;t talk before, having being raised to 'communicate' through sheer and unabated violence only) she lost her predictive skills for awhile (at which point Batman tried to re-teach his 127 styles to her. After that she met Shiva, who trained her all over again, and she reacquired her ability to predict moves (and kicked Shiva's sweet behind from Gotham to Kathmandu). Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) is perfect!
Now, I'll give it to you that the Arakishage sword brothers are great (Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow - i will be respectful and NOT include Kamakura here). But this would not be a match that they would just flip in and flip out of.
Now, not to say that the Arakishage's would be totally unable to defeat the Batteam. They are quite capable, and the match could go either way. But it is not a walkover, and the only people who would matter in the Joe team would be Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. Let's say Quick Kick, Jinx, and ----erm----Kamakura --- would be none-starters.
I still think Batman and Batgirl would win, but i would not be too surprised if the Arakishages triumphed. It would just not be a walkover either way.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

I'm going by comic showings... you can use the guides on Hasbro if you wish.

I've said it many times Snake-eyes has moved his sword so fast the friction of the air caused it to burst into flames then the force of his and Stormshadows swords colliding caused an explosion. Stormshadow at age 18 dodged machine gun fire from three platoons in an empty field while carrying Snake-eyes and laying return fire. Snake-eyes takes apart entire platoons of armed Cobra Soldiers (even the lowest Cobra are enhanced with 2x reflexes, strength and durability) with only a sword and slices through Cobra B.A.TS like paper, and a B.A.T is impervious to small arms fire.

Go read some Joe comics spetznaz so you are informed enough to post in this thread.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm going by comic showings... you can use the guides on Hasbro if you wish.
I've said it many times Snake-eyes has moved his sword so fast the friction of the air caused it to burst into flames then the force of his and Stormshadows swords colliding caused an explosion. Stormshadow at age 18 dodged machine gun fire from three platoons in an empty field while carrying Snake-eyes and laying return fire. Snake-eyes takes apart entire platoons of armed Cobra Soldiers (even the lowest Cobra are enhanced with 2x reflexes, strength and durability) with only a sword and slices through Cobra B.A.TS like paper, and a B.A.T is impervious to small arms fire.
Go read some Joe comics spetznaz so you are informed enough to post in this thread.

You just said you got your stats on SnakeEyes from a guide book!
Oh, and when it comes to dodging bullets both Batman and Batgirl have done that in droves. Batman basically does it virtually every day (and in Year One dodged shots from a few paces away, and in essence dodging projectiles is Batman's forte).
Batgirl is even more ridiculous when it comes to dodging shots! She has dodged shots at her head from point black range, and in Batgirl Knight Alone she took down an entire building of government agents. When the top honchos reviewed the tape they thought she was a meta-human (because her moves, reflexes and speed were beyond anything they had ever seen).
When it comes to dodging fire from multiple directions, at a distance, then the Batman and Bagirl would not even be fazed in the least. Hence running across a field with enemy machine-gun nests laying a withering fire would not be nothing much for Bruce or Cassandra (and even characters like Nightwing and Robin would be able to handle THAT).
You say i haven't read Joe Comics. I have (and as i stated in my first post the Arakishage blood brothers are the only characters that really make me marvel at the Joes). In my last post i even said that i would not even be that surprised if Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes won, but i would expect that the Bat team would win.
And i emphasized that whoever won the battle would not be a walkover.
BUT YOU are the one who waltzes in and says that even a character like Kamakura (geez) would be able to beat the Batman. Kamakura beating Batman! That is plain ludicrous. Kamakura without snake Eyes is half-baked. He is able to take care of typical opponents, even those with some level of adeptness, but thinking that Kamakura would trounce the Batman is just plain asinine.
In your post you told me to: 'Go read some Joe comics spetznaz so you are informed enough to post in this thread.
Well, i retort in the following manner:
Go read some Batman/Batgirl comics srankmissingnin so that you are informed enough to post in this thread.

The Flash Faster Than You

Examples of Batman/Batgirl dodging bullets seem weak compared to dodgind three platoons on an open field.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by The Flash
Examples of Batman/Batgirl dodging bullets seem weak compared to dodgind three platoons on an open field.

Dodging bullets at point blank range?
And both Bats and BGirl have dodged slugs from multiple assailants many times. Infact Robin does that regularly.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

The guide book was based on the normal comic line not the cartoon or the action figures.

Three platoons of armed soldiers not three machine gun nest and he did it with a person on his back while returning fire; that alone beats any bullet dodging feat Bruce or Cass has under their belts... and that was an 18 year old Tommy who wasn't even a master of the Arashikage Clan yet. Snake-eyes can run head strong into machine gun fire from Fred Series Guards with out getting tagged! He has stabbed Scarlet through the chest while he was running with surgical accuracy with out causing any damage... with a freaking katana. When Snake-eyes fought the Night Creeper leader he did a back flip from one roof to the next over a two way street and simultaneously blocked five cross bow bolts. Snake-eyes is pure badass... and he has taken hits from Wraith so I'm wondering if Bats can even do enough damage to put him down.

Do you know how fast you would need to cause a sword (or anything) to burst into flames because of air friction spetznaz?

And for your information I am well read in Batman comics... not so much in Batgirl but my friend collects them and I read them at his place some times and while she is arguable a level above Batman that does nothing for a guy would in all likeliness could take Spider-man.

And the winner of this encounter is