Re: Juggernaut vs. Wolverine
Originally posted by MaelstromAnd what exactly makes you think that the Torch and Iceman are in Juggernaut's league?
Is he really in the same class as Hulk, Juggernaut, Human Torch and Iceman.
BTW, no contest...Juggy squashes Wolvie...no matter how hard Marvel pushes him, common sense has to prevail.
Wolvie actually p*ssuied out of a fight with Cain..Him and Colossus were at a bar, and Cain was there in regular street clothes. Colossus picked a fight with Cain and got his arse kicked, while Wolvie sat back and watched. After kicking Colossus's ass, he then asked Wolverine if he wanted to go a round..and like a little boitch arse school girl..Wolvie chickened out...lol
Juggernaut is ....well ...a veritable Juggernaut (the word Juggernaut by the way is Hindi in origin. It was a title used by Lord Visnu the Sustainer, the second in the Hindu Trimurti after Brahma the Creator and Siva the Destroyer, which literally meant 'Lord of the World who could move them'😉.
Juggernaut would punch Wolverine so hard that old Wolvie would go running off to Magneto begging to be put out of his misery.
The only person in Marvel who can stand up to a well written Juggernaut (emphasizing well written) is one .....War Hulk. The problem is over the years the Juggernaut has had his power levels literaly juggled! At one point he is unstoppable (which is what he should be, since the only thing that could be done is slow him down), and on other occasions even Rogue can sock it to him! Juggernaut has been the recipient of a lot of bad writing sadly, which has relegated him to a nigh second-tier status.
It reminds me of a 'what if' between the Hulk (normal Hulk mind you), Doomsday and Juggernaut. Virtually everyone said that Jug was not even a factor to be considered. Yet in reality Juggernaut totally belonged in that match (as in Jug is unstoppable, the Hulk always increased his strength with rage, and Doomsday is basically a nightmare that is hard to defeat, and if defeated always comes back stronger and invulnerable to whatever force defeated him). I think Doomsday would have won, but it was interesting to see how people made it seem as if Juggernaut was absolutely useless.
Anyways, a fight between Wolverine and the Juggernaut would be a quick one. Wolverine would discover what the meaning of an 'unstoppable force' is.
p.s: When i said the only one who could match up to Juggernaut was War-Hulk i did not mean that in the whole Marvel universe that was the only opponent worthy of Jug. Infact there are many ....eg Gladiator, Thor, etc. And some like the Silver Surfer and Thanos would obliterate Jug. I was just using that as a frame of reference.
Originally posted by spetznazYeah I agree, I think Juggie's downfall started when he ran into Onslaught...and was tossed clear across North America. They made him a joke in that MASSIVE crossover, where he could have been a powerful ally.
Juggernaut is ....well ...a veritable Juggernaut (the word Juggernaut by the way is Hindi in origin. It was a title used by Lord Visnu the Sustainer, the second in the Hindu Trimurti after Brahma the Creator and Siva the Destroyer, which literally meant 'Lord of the World who could move them'😉.
Juggernaut would punch Wolverine so hard that old Wolvie would go running off to Magneto begging to be put out of his misery.
The only person in Marvel who can stand up to a well written Juggernaut (emphasizing well written) is one .....War Hulk. The problem is over the years the Juggernaut has had his power levels literaly juggled! At one point he is unstoppable (which is what he should be, since the only thing that could be done is slow him down), and on other occasions even Rogue can sock it to him! Juggernaut has been the recipient of a lot of bad writing sadly, which has relegated him to a nigh second-tier status.
It reminds me of a 'what if' between the Hulk (normal Hulk mind you), Doomsday and Juggernaut. Virtually everyone said that Jug was not even a factor to be considered. Yet in reality Juggernaut totally belonged in that match (as in Jug is unstoppable, the Hulk always increased his strength with rage, and Doomsday is basically a nightmare that is hard to defeat, and if defeated always comes back stronger and invulnerable to whatever force defeated him). I think Doomsday would have won, but it was interesting to see how people made it seem as if Juggernaut was absolutely useless.
Anyways, a fight between Wolverine and the Juggernaut would be a quick one. Wolverine would discover what the meaning of an 'unstoppable force' is.
p.s: When i said the only one who could match up to Juggernaut was War-Hulk i did not mean that in the whole Marvel universe that was the only opponent worthy of Jug. Infact there are many ....eg Gladiator, Thor, etc. And some like the Silver Surfer and Thanos would obliterate Jug. I was just using that as a frame of reference.
Re: Juggernaut vs. Wolverine
Originally posted by Empath
angel_notNiether one of these guys ranks high on the angel list.
But Wolverine for all his limitations seems to be a big gun.
Is he really in the same class as Hulk, Juggernaut, Human Torch and Iceman.
Short answer: No
He backhanded him once and took him out of the fight against the rest of the team.
Originally posted by Empath
Wolvie actually p*ssuied out of a fight with Cain..Him and Colossus were at a bar, and Cain was there in regular street clothes. Colossus picked a fight with Cain and got his arse kicked, while Wolvie sat back and watched. After kicking Colossus's ass, he then asked Wolverine if he wanted to go a round..and like a little boitch arse school girl..Wolvie chickened out...lol
He didn't p*ssy out of that fight, he did the smart thing and minded his business. Only him and Nightcrawler there to help, he apparantly knew damn well they couldn't do jack. And, he knew Colossus asked for that fight too, so he stayed out of it. After all, Juggernaut wasn't there for a fight, he was there for some booty.
And spetznaz, you're refering to the Comic Book Universe Battles site aren't you? I saw that Hulk/Juggernaut/Doomsday fight they put together too, along with the opinions of different people. So many people completely misinformed on Juggernaut and his abilities.
Re: Re: Juggernaut vs. Wolverine
Originally posted by TronAnd spetznaz, you're refering to the Comic Book Universe Battles site aren't you? I saw that Hulk/Juggernaut/Doomsday fight they put together too, along with the opinions of different people. So many people completely misinformed on Juggernaut and his abilities.
Originally posted by long pig
Remember when cannonball and wolverine were in a bar and CB go wasted and juggs was going to pick a fight...so wolvie broke in and backed him down??
obviously jugs is either intimadated by wolvie
or he didnt wanna get wolvies blood all over his costume
its obvious that its option 2 😉 he didnt wanna smear wolverine. he even told wolverine that he was no match for himself (juggernaut). wolverine acknowledged he wasnt a match for him.
p.s. : http://www.geocities.com/pic_housing2/Wolverine_KO1.txt