No, I didn't forget those. I stil say a damp rock cut tomb sealed of from fresh air is HARDLY the place to be revived from such an ordeal.
Secondly, when Jesus was pierced water and blood came out of it. Physicians all agree now that that particular combination can ONLY appear when a) the person is indeed dead and b) is it caused by severe trauma. Other than that, Roman DID pierce the heart, not just check to see if someone's dead by pricking him a bit. Normally people'd hang on a cross for a day or two. I doubt after all that intense pain you suffer from that you'd be bothered at all by a slight prick.
Other than that I TOTALLY and WHOLE HEARTEDLY agree with Ush. Fact of the matter is, you cannot prove if Jesus rose from the dead nor can you prove he didn't. Only fact we have is that the body is gone. For the rest: you either believe it or not.
Originally posted by yerssot
well, you forgot a few parts of the theory...The drug puts you in a sort of coma... no pain and you look pretty dead, so after that spear, wich was pretty common in those days, he wouldn't react, making him dead in the eyes of the Romans, who didn't know about the drug.
Very few people got burried but since they explicitly said it, it has to be that...
After approx 5 hours he ... hmmm, don't know the exact word for coming out of his drug... well, anyway, the drug left his body and he got awake...
. A damp, dark cave is hardly the place to recover from the torments of hanging on a cross in the hot sun for seven hours
I pity those with no faithand I am sick and tired of that kind of arogance. You belive whatever you want to but dont pity those who doesnt share your belives
Originally posted by queeq
IN the side. Through the ribs into the heart.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by finti
and I am sick and tired of that kind of arogance. You belive whatever you want to but dont pity those who doesnt share your belives
And I am sick and tired of people who think I'm sane! 😄 😉
Don't worry, I don't. 😄
Since when did you think it was RAINY, finti? Did you even read it or just watched the movie? It was NOT raining (not that there was any mention of it that is) and I the story doesn't say anything about the temperature. Besides, Jesus was thristy, if it was raining he could have drunk water. Considering the time of the year we may assume that it was poretty warm.
I don't expect you to believe it, finti, do what you think is right, but confusing a discussion with absolutely wrong facts is a tad awkward.
what movie?
God blotted out the sun as if to let us know how black the deed which was being done, and out of that blackness Jesus cried, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? My God My God, why hast Thou forsaken me
The day grew darker as longer it passed even all the paintings I have seen of the crusifixtion have very very dark clouds. I was also thought(nine years of christianity at school) that the last three hours of Jesus suffering on the cross was completly dark.
and by the way they gave him vinegar on the sponge not water
It got dark after a while, yes. But it did not rain, not that the Scriptures say anyway and that's the only reference, not paintings that were made centuries later.
And the darkness can also be explained by a total eclipse of the sun. Id on't know if astronomers ever checked that, but if we are to take total darkness as literal, than an eclipse is more likely than dark clouds.