adam warlock vs superman

Started by FieryBalrog8 pages
Originally posted by whirlysplat
How do you suck out energy stored as super ATP? and does kryptonite exist in the marvel universe. How would the surfer know about kryptonite? The cyborg laughed at Surfers cosmic blast in GL/SS. 😆

I dont know, how does Surfer suck the gamma out of Hulk? He could blast him with red sunlight or whatever. Change incoming sunlight to red. A buncha things. When you can manipulate matter on the atomic level...

If he even needed to. He's faster than current supes, he can level planets with his blasts, etc...

Originally posted by The Flash
OMG! You made a HUGE ass list on all the many things Surfer can do to Superman. Please don't do it again. I don't like having to scroll down for a long time.

😮‍💨 glad ya liked it.

Originally posted by leonidas
i think most will pick AW just because most on this site don't like supes. thinking in an unbiased way, the choice seems crystal clear to me.

But yet they get hard-ons when anyone discusses Sentry... strange.

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
😮‍💨 glad ya liked it.
It keeps me up all night. 😉

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
I dont know, how does Surfer suck the gamma out of Hulk? He could blast him with red sunlight or whatever. Change incoming sunlight to red. A buncha things. When you can manipulate matter on the atomic level...

If he even needed to. He's faster than current supes, he can level planets with his blasts, etc...

😮‍💨 glad ya liked it.

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Gamma rays are radiation not chemically stored energy.
Yes Surfer can manipulatee a lot of matter. Supes has a bio generated force field its energy seems to resist this type of thing.
Surfer can level planets with a blast, Since when, and why then when he fights all out doesn't he destroy every planet he is on.
😄

<<He beat him in the late 70's in Marvel two in one. It was when Thanos "died" and Adam "died" At least he has one thing on Supes "him" has died more. >>

that wasn't 'adam', that was . . . who the hell knows! AW was still 'dead' at that point. since his return he has never shown himslef capable of that again. because he's not. turned thanos to stone?? why doesn't he just do that to everyone. any other battle thanos has crushed him. below are his directory stats. show me where he has cl100 strength and show me what he can do against supes. MAYBE the soul gem could suck his soul, but as is said, many powerful beings have resisted it and i think supes would too. c'mon guys, AW might hang for a bit but this is a mismatch.

bio:
Strength Level: Adam Warlock possessed superhuman strength which he could increase even further by enhancing it with cosmic energy. Un-enhanced, Warlock could lift (press) about 4 tons; enhanced, he could achieve ten times that level of strength for brief periods of time (less than one hour), as when he battled Thor.

Known Superhuman Powers: Adam Warlock possessed a number of superhuman properties and powers derived from his artificially determined genetic structure. His bone and muscle tissue was denser than human, endowing him with superhuman strength and resilience. Among his body's special adaptations was an enclave of cells able to tap and transform cosmic energy for personal use. Warlock could use this energy to enhance his physical strength, endurance, and powers of recuperation. He could also employ cosmic energy to negate the force of gravity beneath him, enabling him to fly. In an Earthlike atmosphere, Warlock was able to attain the speed of sound (770 miles per hour). He could use his cosmic energy to locate and enter natural space-warps (discontinuities in the fabric of space) in order to traverse interstellar space. He could also project cosmic energy from his hands as concussive force. The potency of these blasts remains unknown. Warlock's energy manipulating powers waned at the time he was given the soul-gem by the High Evolutionary. No longer could he direct concussive force from his hands or enhance his strength. Whether this power limitation was caused by his symbiotic relationship with the soul-gem or some other factor is not yet known. When Warlock was summoned from the soul-gem to defeat Thanos, he seemed to possess these cosmic powers once more.

Adam Warlock was able to spin a cocoon like object around him at will in a matter of seconds. He did so infrequently during his short life, usually to protect himself from mortal harm, and usually he would emerge from the cocoon at a further level of physical or mental maturity. It is not known where the substance of the cocoon came from, or where it went after he emerged from it.

Paraphernalia: Adam Warlock possessed a green soul-gem which adhered to his forehead. Its precise origin unknown, the soul-gem is one of six of its kind. The soul-gem enabled Warlock to project beams of concussive energy (whether it was his body's own energy focused through the gem or the gem's energy is not known), devolve organisms to more primitive states, and absorb the souls (life forces or consciousnesses) of other beings. The more Warlock employed the gem for the latter, purpose, the more the gem began to influence Warlock's mind to provide it more souls. The soul-gem appeared to possess a consciousness of sorts. The soul-gem contained (or was a portal to) a small dimensional world where the souls absorbed by the gem would have a shared subjective experience of a peaceful, pastoral valley. Warlock's soul-gem is the only one of the six known to have "vampiric" tendencies.

he wouldn't use the gem becaue it might drive him insane, but he would likely be spinning a coccoon for himself quickly enough!

Originally posted by leonidas
<<He beat him in the late 70's in Marvel two in one. It was when Thanos "died" and Adam "died" At least he has one thing on Supes "him" has died more. >>

that wasn't 'adam', that was . . . who the hell knows! AW was still 'dead' at that point. since his return he has never shown himslef capable of that again. because he's not. turned thanos to stone?? why doesn't he just do that to everyone. any other battle thanos has crushed him. below are his directory stats. show me where he has cl100 strength and show me what he can do against supes. MAYBE the soul gem could suck his soul, but as is said, many powerful beings have resisted it and i think supes would too. c'mon guys, AW might hang for a bit but this is a mismatch.

I agree hence the brackets on my original post. Supe is far superior to Warlock. I also agree with the rest of your post. Read mine again 😄

Originally posted by whirlysplat
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Gamma rays are radiation not chemically stored energy.
Yes Surfer can manipulatee a lot of matter. Supes has a bio generated force field its energy seems to resist this type of thing.
Surfer can level planets with a blast, Since when, and why then when he fights all out doesn't he destroy every planet he is on.
😄

theres a pic on this forum somewhere.... honestly. I can't remember the issue though.

As for why, that should be obvious, cmon. One of the noblest souls in the galaxy, and a good guy, he loves to talk and try to calm everyone down.... a lot like superman! why doesnt supes just speedblitz first and ask questions later?

hehe. i wasn't referencing your post whirly - least i didn't think so. more answering some of the other posts that seem to want to make AW something he's not. 'pologies if it seemed otherwise.

Uhh Superman is also one of the most noblest souls in the galaxy, and also a good guy.

Just thought id mention that. 😄

No probs leonidas, you are one of the posters on here I really enjoy reading as your arguments are always well thought out and backed up by evidence. Something we see rarely here.🙂

No probs leonidas, you are one of the posters on here I really enjoy reading as your arguments are always well thought out and backed up by evidence. Something we see rarely here.🙂

<<No probs leonidas, you are one of the posters on here I really enjoy reading as your arguments are always well thought out and backed up by evidence. Something we see rarely here.>>

well . . . thanks!

Originally posted by leonidas
bio:
Strength Level: Adam Warlock possessed superhuman strength which he could increase even further by enhancing it with cosmic energy. Un-enhanced, Warlock could lift (press) about 4 tons; enhanced, he could achieve ten times that level of strength for brief periods of time (less than one hour), as when he battled Thor.

Known Superhuman Powers: Adam Warlock possessed a number of superhuman properties and powers derived from his artificially determined genetic structure. His bone and muscle tissue was denser than human, endowing him with superhuman strength and resilience. Among his body's special adaptations was an enclave of cells able to tap and transform cosmic energy for personal use. Warlock could use this energy to enhance his physical strength, endurance, and powers of recuperation. He could also employ cosmic energy to negate the force of gravity beneath him, enabling him to fly. In an Earthlike atmosphere, Warlock was able to attain the speed of sound (770 miles per hour). He could use his cosmic energy to locate and enter natural space-warps (discontinuities in the fabric of space) in order to traverse interstellar space. He could also project cosmic energy from his hands as concussive force. The potency of these blasts remains unknown. Warlock's energy manipulating powers waned at the time he was given the soul-gem by the High Evolutionary. No longer could he direct concussive force from his hands or enhance his strength. Whether this power limitation was caused by his symbiotic relationship with the soul-gem or some other factor is not yet known. When Warlock was summoned from the soul-gem to defeat Thanos, he seemed to possess these cosmic powers once more.

This is old. Here are more current stats;

Height: 6 ft. 2 in.
Weight: 240 lbs.
Eyes: Red
Hair: Blond
Skin: Gold

Known Superhuman Powers: Adam Warlock possesses a number of superhuman properties and powers derived from his artificially determined genetic structure. His bone and muscle tissue is denser than human, endowing him with superhuman strength and resilience.

1. Strength Level: Adam Warlock possesses superhuman strength which he can increase even further by enhancing it with cosmic energy. Marvel directories list his strength at roughly 4 tons unenhanced - and 40 tons enhanced. This listing originates from the old handbooks - since then Warlock created new bodies for himself, pip, and gamora. Pip's new body raised his strength from a normal human - up to class 10 (perhaps higher). To what extent Warlock augmented his own strength is unknown, though since that time Warlock has been capable of doing battle with several class 100 entities. It is presumable he is at least capable of reaching class 70 or 80.

2. Durability: Warlock has an immense durability - which when he is tapping cosmic energy increases even further. He took multiple blows from the brother of Ulik, who was presumably class 90 - without being harmed. He is able to withstand lightning bolts, missles, bullets, and nuclear warheads. When at his maximum strength, Warlock is surrounded in a nimbus of energy. He has not, however, reached this peak of durability is quite some time.

3. Cosmic Power: Warlock has a fair ability to tap cosmic energy for personal uses. He is unable to manipulate it as well as the Silver Surfer, or tap quantities anywhere near those Thanos of Titan does. Normally Warlock uses his cosmic power for bolts of destructive force, and to enhance his own strength and durability. When channeled into a bolt, his maximum strength was capable of destroying an area the size of the Kremlin in a single shot.

4.) Travel: In an Earthlike atmosphere, Warlock was able to attain the speed of sound (770 miles per hour). He could use his cosmic energy to locate and enter natural space-warps (discontinuities in the fabric of space) in order to traverse interstellar space. Warlock is capable of flying faster than light in space - but he is not as fast as the Silver Surfer. He is also able to teleport short distances, but the greater the distance, the more taxing the teleportation effort. Once, in desperate need to return home, Warlock travelled into a black hole, and used it to appear closer to Earth.

6.) Mind Power: An early bid for psionics, Warlock had them in excess. His telepathy was able to pierce telepathic shielding, and his telekinesis able to block the hammer and blows of Thor with ease. He possesses a nearly invinicible telepathic shield around his mind - though psi's of Exodus, Sersi, Man-Beast strength are able to pierce this shield and affect his mind.

7.) Soul Affinity: Adam Warlock has demonstrated a close affinity to his own, and other, souls. This is likely because of his longstanding relationship with the soul gem. Even without the gem Warlock is able to sense another's soul - commune with it - and possibly affect it. He can commit exocisms within a body as well.

50/50. If Warlock is at his prime, Supes gets ko'd. If not, Supes wins.

<<50/50. If Warlock is at his prime, Supes gets ko'd. If not, Supes wins.>>

how exactly?

even class 90 is still WAYY below supes. he might be able to shield himself for awhile and prolong the fight, but there was not one ability listed among his newer powers that would allow him to harm supes in any way. he might be able to try some mind attack, but supes has overcome MANY mind attacks. i still fail to see how supes doesn't win this 10/10 - peak AW or not.

Originally posted by leonidas

how exactly?

even class 90 is still WAYY below supes. he might be able to shield himself for awhile and prolong the fight, but there was not one ability listed among his newer powers that would allow him to harm supes in any way. he might be able to try some mind attack, but supes has overcome MANY mind attacks. i still fail to see how supes doesn't win this 10/10 - peak AW or not.

Power cosmic blasts perhaps. I agree with you, but I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here. Also, current Superman is as vulnerable as ever to mind attacks...maybe AW wouldn't shut him down, but he'd provide a formidable telepathic distraction.

-DM

With Warlock's nimbus shield at his prime, he withstood countless attacks from Mephisto in his realm! He's also swatted away the mjlonir with little effort due to his telekinetic powers. He can also try and mind rape Supes but, that probablt wouldn't work a 100 percent. Superman will concentrate to fight of the telepathic assaults, while his mind is pre-occupied, Warlock pelt him with his cosmic force blasts. With the soul gem he can look into Superman's soul, and he will probably divulge that Superman is a noble person and calm his soul, to stop him from attacking. Ending the match in a peaceful draw.

Those who beleieve superman will win are buying into the whole boyscout idea of superman. I admit Warlock can't match supes in strength but that's about it. Warlock's smarter faster,(yes faster) and willing to sacrifice himself just like supes but what makes him win is his power over the soul gem. Many ofy you don't seem to understand it's power. It's part of one of strongest weapons of both universes. With the soul gem he beat mepisto in his own realm where supes has not chance. Not only that but he also has acces to the sould world where he can teleport anyone and here warlock reigns supreme. Supes can block telepathy but not at that scale. Warlock wins easily over the man of steel.

to jrodslam

know that though he may the noblest of souls, he still has one and that is where he falls short. Adam Warlock has power over all souls with the gem whether good or evil.