Spider-man 3 villain Decided!

its not revieled to the public but raimi has decided who its going to be. and it could be

Spoiler:
venom

Spoiler:
Sam Raimi has been promoting the DVD release of his Ghost House Pictures’ The Grudge this past week, so of course while talking with him Now Playing snuck in a few Spider-Man questions as soon as the webslinging director let his guard down. And while Raimi’s spider-sense was tingling – keeping him from revealing too many details about the next Spidey film – he did confirm for us that a villain for Spider-Man 3 has been settled on.

“Alvin Sargent is writing the screenplay right now,” Raimi says. “I’m not supposed to [talk about the villain]. When Sony Pictures decides to release the villain they do it in conjunction with Marvel Comic books. Avi Arad is the president there and my producer, and they’re really the ones that decide how they’re going to present this to the fans of the comic and they love doing it with a lot of drama and a big splash. So they consult with me, but it’s really something… they really want to please the fans and do it in a very particular way.”

Raimi comes across as a nice enough guy, so it’s easy to let such doubletalk pass, but a bit more persuasion from Now Playing’s editors did get the filmmaker to discuss how he decided on the villain for the next film – whoever that villain may be.

“What I did was, when I worked on the story with my brother Ivan, I determined what journey I felt was most important for Peter Parker to take,” he says. “He’s a young man so this is a coming of age story and he’s on a journey to becoming a more responsible adult – in each of the movies. And I tried to determine with my brother which human faults would be displayed in this particular story that Peter Parker would have to exhibit, and then recognize that he had that fault, and then try to grow and develop as a human being as somebody who could overcome that fault. So once [we] determined Peter Parker’s journey, we tried to determine a villain that best presented some aspect of that fault so that he could literally stand in the way of the growth of Peter Parker.”

A lot of fans have high hopes that the villain in Spidey 3 will be Venom, a more modern foe for the wallcrawler than the first two films’ Green Goblin and Doc Ock. Of course, Raimi isn’t saying whether we’ll see the symbiote-suited Venom in the next film or not, but he does explain that the choice of villains also comes down to a balance between character and the cool visual aspect that modern special effects allow (and that would surely make for an amazing Venom, by the way).

“Absolutely we wanted to have a villain not only who would fulfill the character needs but somebody who could entertain the audience on a visceral level and provide great visuals, something we haven’t seen before, and create a real challenge and great foe for Spider-Man and his unique spidery, spider-like powers,” says Raimi.

Spider-Man 3 is currently targeted for a May 2007 release.

i know there's a thread on this (spider-man 3 updates) but i wanted people to see it without going to the thread all ready existing. please do not merge for the reason i have said. BUT! if its already posted in there (i couldnt see it) then delete this!

So its not really decided at all?

it is. he just explained how he chose it and it will be revieled to the public in april sometime

Visually I think the only villains are Venom, Carnage, and maybe Scorpion, but Scorpion lacks the rest of what he was saying, and Carnage shouldn't be introduced before Venom. I don't think The Lizard or Rhino or someone portrays a very visual attraction on screen, they're pretty standard.

Venom isn't going to be in SM3 b/c we 1st need the alien costume and that's a lot of development

Thanks for the heads up. I'm really pissed at VenomFan for making that thread, it's a thread the no one really ever goes into so therefore they don't see huge up-dates, I don't really think he knew what he was doing...

I don't want Venom to be in Spider-Man 3, it just doesn't seem right.

I honestly do want Venom but I doubt he will be in future films

i want venom. but i only want him with a proper intro. if sam does the alien costume, eddie and pete rivalry, venom coming into being, venom vs spidey and the life of peter, the film will at least be 4-6 hours long!

That doesn't tell us anything, all that's really been said is that he wants a Villian that explores a particular fault of Peter Parker's and allows him to grow as a result, and one that is visually interesting. Yes, Venom would be visually interesting, but so would the Lizard, transformation sequence anyone? Looking at a particular fault of Peter's? The Lizard would explore Peter's need to solve problems not only by brute force, but by using his brain as well, by using every resource he as available to him. If Venom is in Spider-Man 3 it will completely ruin that character, as he won't have been set up properly. Until Raimi says exactly who the villian is, that description of why the particular Villian was chosen can be manipulated to make it seem like any villian, so it tells us absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by The Ones
i want venom. but i only want him with a proper intro. if sam does the alien costume, eddie and pete rivalry, venom coming into being, venom vs spidey and the life of peter, the film will at least be 4-6 hours long!

maybe 3 hours long but not 6

No, four to six hours is about how long it would take. Because first you would have to introduce Eddie, develop his character a bit, develop the rivalry between the two photographers, explain in a reasonable manner why Eddie comes to hate Spider-Man. You'd also have to have Peter wear the symbiote for a time, if that happens, you have to show why he chooses to get rid of it and not keep it. After all, it gave a lot of benefits, you have to show what the draw back is, and why Peter won't like that. Then you have to have the symbiote merge with Eddie, the two of them become Venom. Then Venom has to go after Spider-Man/Peter, and that fight has to be long and grueling. To do all of that, and do it well, if not 4-6 hours, you'd certainly need more time than should be in one movie. Especially to do it properly, because the symbiotes attempt to take over Peter and make him violent and capable of killing, considering Peter's personality, should and has to be gradual, and take a while.

Originally posted by Corlock Striker
That doesn't tell us anything, all that's really been said is that he wants a Villian that explores a particular fault of Peter Parker's and allows him to grow as a result, and one that is visually interesting. Yes, Venom would be visually interesting, but so would the Lizard, transformation sequence anyone? Looking at a particular fault of Peter's? The Lizard would explore Peter's need to solve problems not only by brute force, but by using his brain as well, by using every resource he as available to him. If Venom is in Spider-Man 3 it will completely ruin that character, as he won't have been set up properly. Until Raimi says exactly who the villian is, that description of why the particular Villian was chosen can be manipulated to make it seem like any villian, so it tells us absolutely nothing.

i know that but its decided and rami is going to stick with it so we are going to wait and see. i hope its venom. i dont mind sitting through a 5 hour film as long as its entertaining and is done properly

I don't see anything in the past 2 films to decently support the notion that Spiderman 3's villain is going to be Venom.

Eddie Brock has been mentioned 1 time in the entire series. Why introduce Dr. Connors in the 2nd film and make him a key player in the plot for the 2nd film if they were just going to throw Venom in the 3rd movie?

What about Harry Osbourn? Are we to completely forget what he stumbled upon at the end of the 2nd film?

Without any mention of a symbiote nor any introduction to Eddie Brock...thinking Venom would be in the 3rd Spiderman just isn't a believeable story.

The Lizard fits the description of a villain who is visually enticing seeing as he'll be almost entirely CGI. And catch me if I'm wrong here, but don't Lizards naturally prey on insects and arachnids? 😕

I wouldn't be surprised if Eddie Brock gets introduced into the movie and I imagine the whole "Spiderman got me fired!" scenario could play out.....leading to a Venom appearance in #4...but that doesn't help describe Harry's role in the films.

I want Venom! I reallly do! But i think the villian in spider-man 3 is gonna GoblinII DAMN!

i dont think raimi is going to introduce goblin 2 in number 3, he knows how much that fans will hate it and he'll loose millions of $$$$$ and he will ruin the series. if raimi is a big fan of spider-man that he says he is. he wont do that to fans and himself

The only travesty that he would be commiting is if he decided to introduce Venom into Spiderman 3.

The films don't stay completely faithful to the comics so I don't think we'll have to wait for secret wars or anything. It might be more like the cartoon when the astronaut(s) accidently brought it from space. I think the perfect candidate for this would be J. Jonah's son. I wouldn't mind if he fused with the symbiote instead of Eddie Brock, just because of his jealously and anger towards Parker.

Originally posted by Ultimatespider
I want Venom! I reallly do! But i think the villian in spider-man 3 is gonna GoblinII DAMN!

I doubt GG2 will be in 3 b/c when Sam Raimi was interviewed, he mention who will be in the film: Peter, MJ, Harry, May, and Villain. If Harry was going to be GG2, Sam wouldn't have said villian.

Corlock Striker makes an excellent point.

I'm sure Venom will not be the new villain, which I'm pleased about.

They need a character that will provide a challenge pysichally and mentally, someone that Peter has a bond with. A challenge that allows him to grow as a person.

I think the only villains to do that will be The Lizard and Harry as the new Goblin.

Originally posted by BlackC@t
Corlock Striker makes an excellent point.

I'm sure Venom will not be the new villain, which I'm pleased about.

They need a character that will provide a challenge pysichally and mentally, someone that Peter has a bond with. A challenge that allows him to grow as a person.

I think the only villains to do that will be The Lizard and Harry as the new Goblin.

Challenge physically - Venom is one of his strongest enemies
Challenge mentally - he knows everything about Parker, and Spider-Man
Someone Peter has a BOND with - ....isn't "bond" the basic overused term with the symbiotes?
A challenge that allows him to grow as a person - He is fighting one of his greatest villains, who is basically a standoff, and he can't rely on his Spider sense anymore for him so he has to think of other ways. He also has to grow as Parker vs Brock, and to save his wife when Brock terrorizes. ALSO, he grows as a person because of the alliance they grow together - Parker knows he won't be able to beat this guy well enough, so he allows him to become an ally, cause "if you can't beat them, join them", and a powerful ally means a safer New York.

I doubt Raimi will do GG2 because if you repeat villains that quick, its stale and uninteresting. And I think that The Lizard isn't interesting enough to carry a whole movie himself.