Silver Surfer vs. Apocalypse

Started by Mshinu8 pages

Full power Apoc (owning HE, taking BB`s scream) wins this.
Weak Apoc looses.

When did he take anything from BB besides what looked like BB breathing at him? Which I think is better than the whisper Surfer got cheapshotted with and got right back up (Cyke with Jean love defeated Apoc in that arc).

And I highly doubt that the way he fought HE would be applicable to what he could or couldn't do to Surfer.

Originally posted by Blanket
When did he take anything from BB besides what looked like BB breathing at him? Which I think is better than the whisper Surfer got cheapshotted with and got right back up (Cyke with Jean love defeated Apoc in that arc).

And I highly doubt that the way he fought HE would be applicable to what he could or couldn't do to Surfer.

Yeah BB with his mouth wide open a strained face and lines running in Apoc`s direction, he must have been breathing. Cyke said they were giving it all they got. Anyway Scott defeated fully powered Apoc only by channeling the power of his entire genetic line, almost nothing could withstand that.

As for HE, he is a more powerful than SS. The fights shows several things that would be applicable to a fight with the Surfer, like casually dodging energy blasts.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Yeah BB with his mouth wide open a strained face and lines running in Apoc`s direction, he must have been breathing. Cyke said they were giving it all they got. Anyway Scott defeated fully powered Apoc only by channeling the power of his entire genetic line, almost nothing could withstand that.

As for HE, he is a more powerful than SS. The fights shows several things that would be applicable to a fight with the Surfer, like casually dodging energy blasts.

He had his mouth open like he was breathing. And Cyke's head was about two feet from BB's head. Logic dictates that Cyke's eyebrows would would have blown up if BB screamed.
I doubt it would be more powerful than a BB scream. 😬

First off, Apoc didn't even defeat HE. He hit him a bunch of times to pretty much no effect. And didn't really get hit once in a short scuffle.

Second, Surfer is a lot more mobile than HE was in that instance, and is more than capable of firing more than two blasts every couple of panels.

Third. There's like one fight where HE is portrayed higher than Surfer. And that was against Thor. The Galactus thing never showed anything except for him growing big, and getting one shotted basically. Not all his showings would support him being above Surfer... which is irrelevant, because Apoc didn't even taste HE's power, and Surfer is more than capable of taking Apoc's hits, and dodging them as well.

Surfer wins, with ease.

Celestial Tech is a non-factor, Apoc has shown to be quite ignorant of its proper usage and - it is hideously dated stuff, given that he got his mits on it millenia ago and also give that Surfer would have some knowledge of Galactus' tech (which, naturally >>>>>>>>>> Celestial tech) ✅

Originally posted by Blanket
He had his mouth open like he was breathing. And Cyke's head was about two feet from BB's head. Logic dictates that Cyke's eyebrows would would have blown up if BB screamed.

BB can direct the effects of his voice, there are other instances of ppl standing next to him while it is used(Medusa, Magneto to name two). But sure, if you want to believe BB was BREATHING go on living in denial.


I doubt it would be more powerful than a BB scream. 😬

You`d be wrong. His line includes Stryfe, Cable, Nate Grey and Hyperstorm.

Third. There's like one fight where HE is portrayed higher than Surfer. And that was against Thor. The Galactus thing never showed anything except for him growing big, and getting one shotted basically. Not all his showings would support him being above Surfer... which is irrelevant, because Apoc didn't even taste HE's power, and Surfer is more than capable of taking Apoc's hits, and dodging them as well.

HE is generally recognized as being more powerful than most top tiers. Even Galactus dodged his beam rather than tank it.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer wins, with ease.

Celestial Tech is a non-factor, Apoc has shown to be quite ignorant of its proper usage and - it is hideously dated stuff, given that he got his mits on it millenia ago and also give that Surfer would have some knowledge of Galactus' tech (which, naturally >>>>>>>>>> Celestial tech) ✅

I don't know. Celestial Technology overcame the Juggernaut's magical powers. It should get more credit than that.

Galactus' tech>all other tech in comics. FACT.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus' tech>all other tech in comics. FACT.

*cough*Cosmic Armor*cough*

Originally posted by Omega Vision
*cough*Cosmic Armor*cough*

Except that. Though Doom managed to steal big B's powers using Galactus' tech.

How do you know that Apoc. transmutes exactly?

SS.... ftw.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
I don't know. Celestial Technology overcame the Juggernaut's magical powers. It should get more credit than that.
exacly

and "big" G cant do shit to Jugs

Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus' tech>all other tech in comics. FACT.
lol

and wut about the tech MJJ use to build the Fury?

UN>Jaspers and Fury.

Galactus would murder Cyttorak and any cosmic cube being u want.

Im sure if Galactus absorbed the UN and his ship he would be > Jaspers.

onpanel action > onpanel statement

onpanel statement says: UN part of galactus

but everythin else shows: UN NOT part of galactus

so the UN dont count 😛

big G aint doing shit to cytorak if its cytoraks own dimension

and a cube beat G at his own game: drains him till he shrink to human size LOL

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
onpanel action > onpanel statement

onpanel statement says: UN part of galactus

but everythin else shows: UN NOT part of galactus

so the UN dont count 😛

big G aint doing shit to cytorak if its cytoraks own dimension

and a cube beat G at his own game: drains him till he shrink to human size LOL

lol are u being sarcastic?

Originally posted by galactusischere
lol are u being sarcastic?

how exactly do you know that Apocalypse can transmute anything?

Because he can...
it's one of hes powers. and why do u keep switching sides?

Originally posted by galactusischere
lol are u being sarcastic?
about what, the UN?

if UN is part of galactus then tell me...why dint he add its power to his own instead of a seperate wepon? like give himself nulification powers when he use his eye-blasts (u know like when Darkseid uses omega effect)
that way he woud never need the UN

o thats right...HE CANT ^^

they never rilly state who built the UN but it aint Galactus (whose only universel lvl)...the UN is way beyond his tech capabilties

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
about what, the UN?

if UN is part of galactus then tell me...why dint he add its power to his own instead of a seperate wepon? like give himself nulification powers when he use his eye-blasts (u know like when Darkseid uses omega effect)
that way he woud never need the UN

o thats right...HE CANT ^^

they never rilly state who built the UN but it aint Galactus (whose only universel lvl)...the UN is way beyond his capabilties

But it is a part galactus. It was stated that the UN is as much a part of him as is his heart. and if ur going to bring up the "richards threathend galactus with the UN and galactus left" arguement, know this: those comics were old.

and as for reality warping...

Originally posted by galactusischere
Doom after absorbing all of Galactus' power finds out that his slightest thoughts warp reality..

1- http://img211.imageshack.us/i/secretwars00925.jpg/
2- http://img294.imageshack.us/i/secretwars01002.jpg/
3- http://img694.imageshack.us/i/secretwars01004.jpg/
4- http://img27.imageshack.us/i/secretwars01005.jpg/

and yes galactus>cube/celestial beings.