Colossus vs. Sabretooth · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindset
Ok?
I don't see how that makes Romulus statement any more true.

Not sure what makes it not true.

He was saying they were trying to grasp genetics and the evolution of it all. They bumbling around in the dark is quite an accurate statement. They do understand genetics, but while they been trying to completely understand it in it entirety. He was there to watch it unfold, he knows how it happened, he was there to see it himself. He does not need to figure it out or understand it with experiments and analyzes it. Which is other words what he was saying. He already knows how it happen, he saw it happen.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I know originally, but I thought they now possessed them. He did alter Wild Child to gain his powers back did he not?

No Feral died soon after Romulus altered her looks and Thorrn has yet to be seen again if I'm not mistaken. Where did you hear that they got their powers back?

We don't fully know as it hasn't been revealed, Wild Child may have lost his second mutation ie. bat look, but Wild Child was modified from the Secret Empire regardless so he wouldn't be powerless thanks to their pre-existing modifications.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
No Feral died soon after Romulus altered her looks and Thorrn has yet to be seen again if I'm not mistaken. Where did you hear that they got their powers back?
We don't fully know as it hasn't been revealed, Wild Child may have lost his second mutation ie. bat look, but Wild Child was modified from the Secret Empire regardless so he wouldn't be powerless thanks to their pre-existing modifications.

I must have been mistaken I could have sworn I saw them with powers I guesses not.

Modified with what attributes? Also why would his abilities remain with Maverick who was also modified lost all his powers including was that were given to him fully or modified as part of existing abilities.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Modified with what attributes? Also why would his abilities remain with Maverick who was also modified lost all his powers including was that were given to him fully or modified as part of existing abilities.

Wild Child was basically a normal teenager until the Secret Empire got a hold of him. Maverick didn't undergo the same process and had a different ability so can't really compare the two.

Wild Child
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Origin
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Alpha Flight #114 [Vol.1]:
Here the Secret Empire continue tests on Kyle, while Wyre watches over

1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight114-01.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight114-02.jpg
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Alpha Flight #117 [Vol.1]:
History explaining Kyle was part of the Breed created by Wyre

1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight117-01.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight117-02.jpg
3. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight117-03.jpg
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X-Factor #142 (Vol.1):
Here are the beginnings of Wild Child from a normal human captured by the Secret Empire and experimented to meet their needs making an ultimate weapon. It was rumored Sabretooth was Kyle's real father as that's why he keeps going after Kyle trying to get him to follow him so they can be a team. Wild Child shows his great speed even rescuing Val from Sabretooth's clutches

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
Wild Child was basically a normal teenager until the Secret Empire got a hold of him. Maverick didn't undergo the same process and had a different ability so can't really compare the two.
[b]Wild Child
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Origin
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Alpha Flight #114 [Vol.1]:
Here the Secret Empire continue tests on Kyle, while Wyre watches over
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight114-01.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight114-02.jpg
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Alpha Flight #117 [Vol.1]:
History explaining Kyle was part of the Breed created by Wyre
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight117-01.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight117-02.jpg
3. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight117-03.jpg
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X-Factor #142 (Vol.1):
Here are the beginnings of Wild Child from a normal human captured by the Secret Empire and experimented to meet their needs making an ultimate weapon. It was rumored Sabretooth was Kyle's real father as that's why he keeps going after Kyle trying to get him to follow him so they can be a team. Wild Child shows his great speed even rescuing Val from Sabretooth's clutches
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/xfactor_v1_142_07_rougher.jpg
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This was recontt by Leob to being that he was also a mutant. So not sure this really explains at all about how he regained his powers.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
This was recontt by Leob to being that he was also a mutant. So not sure this really explains at all about how he regained his powers.

Even in those scans it says he was a mutant, but they put him through gene modification treatements making him what he is today.

Little side tidbit: Loeb wanted to retcon Sasquatch's orgins (make him lupine), but several writers even Scott Kolins called him on it.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
Even in those scans it says he was a mutant, but they put him through gene modification treatements making him what he is today.
Little side tidbit: Loeb wanted to retcon Sasquatch's orgins (make him lupine), but several writers even Scott Kolins called him on it.

Oh I see. Then how is that different then Maverick? However thoses still controdict the recontt since he could not have possiably been alive during WW2 according to those events.

Yea I agree with that. Sas being reconnted was stupid. However it was pritty ambiguous and it quite easily be ignored about the whole sas thing, sinces it was never stated he was a Lupin only very losely implied. I actaully like the fact wild child was reconnt. Now we have the possiablity to see, more and to make him larger part of marvel. He had several awful incarnations, but he also had some cool was such as weapon omega.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Oh I see. Then how is that different then Maverick? However thoses still controdict the recontt since he could not have possiably been alive during WW2 according to those events.
Yea I agree with that. Sas being reconnted was stupid. However it was pritty ambiguous and it quite easily be ignored about the whole sas thing, sinces it was never stated he was a Lupin only very losely implied. I actaully like the fact wild child was reconnt. Now we have the possiablity to see, more and to make him larger part of marvel. He had several awful incarnations, but he also had some cool was such as weapon omega.

Because what happened in Weapon X to Kyle was considered a secondary mutation and Maverick had his pre-existing powers modified, but they were based off of his powers he was born with. Secret Empire gave Wildchild powers he never had or were connected to his mutant power thus completly different. Yep, we will have to wait and see I suppose. Been awhile since we seen him anyways

Naaaa...even Scott Kolins in an interview as Omega Flight was coming out at the same time mentioned he had to talk to Loeb. He was without a doubt going the lupine way. Thankfully most ignore that.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
Because what happened in Weapon X to Kyle was considered a secondary mutation and Maverick had his pre-existing powers modified, but they were based off of his powers he was born with. Secret Empire gave Wildchild powers he never had or were connected to his mutant power thus completly different. Yep, we will have to wait and see I suppose. Been awhile since we seen him anyways
Naaaa...even Scott Kolins in an interview as Omega Flight was coming out at the same time mentioned he had to talk to Loeb. He was without a doubt going the lupine way. Thankfully most ignore that.

I am confused. So he was given powers, and then had a secondary mutation? were was the first mutation? Maverick powers given to him were connected to existing ones, he also had powers given to him from weapon x program that had no attachments to existing powers, but are also supose to be current non existent. hopefully we will see more of wild child.

oh I know Loeb ment it to go that way, but I am saying it was very ambiguous at the time and can be easily ignored without any type of reconnt

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not sure what makes it not true.
He was saying they were trying to grasp genetics and the evolution of it all. They bumbling around in the dark is quite an accurate statement. They do understand genetics, but while they been trying to completely understand it in it entirety. He was there to watch it unfold, he knows how it happened, he was there to see it himself. He does not need to figure it out or understand it with experiments and analyzes it. Which is other words what he was saying. He already knows how it happen, he saw it happen.

. . .Do you think he is the better geneticist, if so post proof, don't waste my time, I'm a busy man. thx

Battlehammer Senior Member

Not from whats been shown so far. However there nothing wrong with the scan that was presented, it was not just some baseless clame like Doom saying Reed an idiot.

There a huge differences. Romulas stated they were bumbling in the dark in concern to evolution ect.

which is a true statement. He on the other hand was there during the entire evolution, his crasp of it, is from seeing it transpire before his eyes.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not from whats been shown so far. However there nothing wrong with the scan that was presented, it was not just some baseless clame like Doom saying Reed an idiot.
There a huge differences. Romulas stated they were bumbling in the dark in concern to evolution ect.
which is a true statement. He on the other hand was there during the entire evolution, his crasp of it, is from seeing it transpire before his eyes.

He said they were stumbling in the dark trying to understand genetics, which seems to imply that he thinks he is the superior geneticist.

This so far is unfounded and is just him talking.

There is no huge difference, and does not make his statement true.

So unless you have some evidence showing that he is superior, please don't reply.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I am confused. So he was given powers, and then had a secondary mutation? were was the first mutation? Maverick powers given to him were connected to existing ones, he also had powers given to him from weapon x program that had no attachments to existing powers, but are also supose to be current non existent. hopefully we will see more of wild child.
oh I know Loeb ment it to go that way, but I am saying it was very ambiguous at the time and can be easily ignored without any type of reconnt

Apparently, and we don't know perhaps a healing factor as the Secret Empire gave him his feral qualities. Yes, his age hinderance ability their not sure he lost or not currently (Weapon X gift), all we know for sure is he lost his initial power. We will, but who knows when

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