awh..don't be fouled by all the proganda and advertising around bruce lee. he was very good indeed...but it's hard to say who'se better than who. jet is chinese champion at 5 different styles....you really can;t know.
in my opinion, the ultimate form of combat (which might not even BE considered offensive action at that state, for all i know) was reached by the inventor of aikido, namely morihei ueshiba. he was a true master of the martial arts.
some guy with extensive military combat training is probably the best fighter. these guys learn to fight as though their lives depend on it. I could see some russian soldier ( these people train heavily in death strikes) taking out bas rutten with a crushing blow to his wind pipe, or caving in his temple.
Bruce Lee is the best all-round fighter. He could learn a move that some expert has taken 10 years to perfect, in one go then do it again and be better than the expert. He was a genius, but died so young, and took all that knowledge with. I believe any top fighter, be it Boxing or Martial Arts, would say Bruce Lee would beat them.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
some guy with extensive military combat training is probably the best fighter. these guys learn to fight as though their lives depend on it. I could see some russian soldier ( these people train heavily in death strikes) taking out bas rutten with a crushing blow to his wind pipe, or caving in his temple.
there was a guy in the ufc that was said to have that type of background..got his ass completely handed to him..bruce was great but so was frank shamrock...noone could touch frank in his prime, i'd like to see him and bruce sqaure off
Martial Arts is a Self Defence, it was never intended to be a sport. In a real life situation, Bruce Lee would probably do a lightening strike to the throat, nothing fancy but, gets the job done. I also believe the best fighters are ones we dont really know about, not these egotistical maniacs trying to prove how good they are.
Re: best fighter ever
Originally posted by mr.smileywell in boxin sugar ray lenard,movies bruce lee,martial art and cobat shingo akio tsung!
when i say best fighter i mean in all forms of combat.
boxing,grappling,traditional martial arts,etc.i think this is a hard question to answer
but i would probably choose between bas rutten and rickson gracie but i can think of even more who i think are realy good
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
some guy with extensive military combat training is probably the best fighter. these guys learn to fight as though their lives depend on it. I could see some russian soldier ( these people train heavily in death strikes) taking out bas rutten with a crushing blow to his wind pipe, or caving in his temple.
Hehe... That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard, like wuTa said guy's with military training have gone in and got there asses slamed!
If you combine all of Bas's thai boxing and MMA fights he'd probably have somewhere around 50-60 professional fights under his belt.. And Bas fought some of the toughest people for his time
People like
Frank Shamrock
Masakatsu Funaki
Guy Mezger
Kevin Randleman
Maurice Smith
and Tsuyoshi Kohsaka
Hell, not even Rickson Gracie would fight Bas in his prime..
And those "DEATH STRIKES" you talk about are nothing but BS! I've never seem them work before in a real or MMA fight
best fighters that i have seen:
Ernesto Hoost
Mirco "Cro Cop" Filipovic
Fedor Emelianenko
Sergei Kharitonov
Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira
Rickson Gracie
Royce Gracie
Mark Hunt
Igor Vovchanchyn
Chuck Liddell
B.J. Penn
fighters with alot of potential:
Karo Parisyan
Forrest Griffin
Andrei Arlovski
and probably the youngest Emelianenko brother (not Aleksander)
Re: best fighter ever
Originally posted by mr.smiley
when i say best fighter i mean in all forms of combat.
boxing,grappling,traditional martial arts,etc.i think this is a hard question to answer
but i would probably choose between bas rutten and rickson gracie but i can think of even more who i think are realy good
I don't think there is one single greatest fighter ever. There are, though definitely, a few who deserve to be the best fighters ever.
My personal fave though is Vanderlai "the axe murderer" Silva. God I wish I was 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier...maybe someday.
Originally posted by @F1
I'm the second best fighter, I come second best to everyone I fight 😮 😑 😖
lol. wax on wax off young daniel-son you'll win one....now for your first test...grab this stone from my palm...ok try again...ok again..(1,000 tries later)...ok put this 2 pound weight on your wrist. now try....(1,000 tries later and you still don't get it) ok (takes that weight off your wrist) now triy..on three...two..one...*whoosh*. You got it!
In other words it takes practice in order to do anything well.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Bruce Lee, Wesley Snipes, Bill Goldberg, Muhammed Ali, Mike Tyson.That team will beat anybody.
That team would win quite easily and I was trying to give the other team a fair chance when I picked this team.