Originally posted by NCRotCAThe Longest Journey was ace, never played the sequel though. That is the one where you play as an art student though? Right?
Grim Fandango was great, but like with the other Lucas Arts Adventure Games (with the exception of The Dig) I couldn't take its story too seriously, given that it was more of a comedy than anything else. Extremely entertaining though, but stuff like the Longest Journey and Myst and [god forbid] certain visual novels like Ever17, Phantom of Inferno and Kana: Little Sister are far more memorable and meaningful as stories in my eyes simply because they had real emotional and dramatic value. But as I said I did really enjoy Grim Fandango, and I like the other LA Adventure games, but purely as entertainments.
The humour surrounding Lucas Arts games is what made them brilliant.
Originally posted by Bardock42I wouldn't say so. You just get idiots who don't know how to categorise them. There are pretty simple boundaries with the occasional game which branches into many
Well, those games are called action-adventures.Video Game genres are a dreadful pile of idiocy though.
You do see some silly people who say that Zelda is an RPG and stuff like that though. Which is pretty laughable, maybe Zelda 2 but that's about it. Action-Adventure is Zelda's genre. (Just like most games)
I still get into confusion when it comes to the difference between Adventure games and RPG's. Reason being because while a RPG takes different perspectives, it generally would always fall into an Adventure of some sort where someone must go somewhere and do something. That's a basic in an Adventure Game. If that were the case something like Oblivion could be considered an Adventure Game, but I bet people would argue with me on this 🙂
Well what essentially defines an adventure game is that they take the action aspects out of the primary mode of gameplay, and where it's still present within the storyline, the action as far as the gameplay's concerned becomes replaced with the player simply directing the character as to what exactly to do, which would then usually be followed by your character's action being played out before you. The exact actions your character performs are essentially driven indirectly by your decisions rather than your direct control over the character. Though there are occasionally mini-games that are action oriented, but they obviously take up a very small portion of the gameplay. RPGs on the other hand feature battle systems that represent the majority of the gameplay that players directly involve themselves with, as well as typically systems such as gaining experience and levelling, as well as the use of statistics within the gameplay.
Adventure games also typically involve such things as exploration, puzzle/problem solving, item collection, and the game is generally driven entirely by storytelling, which is usually interactive. These are usually the only features that are brought into the action-adventure genre, where the stuff I was mentioning earlier is actually replaced with the player directly involving themselves into the action, and where the storytelling takes more of a back seat.
The wikipedia article's pretty comprehensive on the subject actually (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_game).
Originally posted by §P0oONY
I wouldn't say so. You just get idiots who don't know how to categorise them. There are pretty simple boundaries with the occasional game which branches into manyYou do see some silly people who say that Zelda is an RPG and stuff like that though. Which is pretty laughable, maybe Zelda 2 but that's about it. Action-Adventure is Zelda's genre. (Just like most games)
I'm not saying that Zelda doesn't fit what is commonly understood under action-adventure, I'm saying that many of the video game genres nowadays are between vague or useless to outright retarded.
Originally posted by Digi
Agreed, but then what's the point of making a distinction of "Adventure" in the title if we're just going to list shooters, platformers, or RPG's where an adventure happens (which is basically every game)? Might as well merge it with the "favorite game" thread.
well i mean if people start listing halo and other games that far off from an actual adventure game, then we got a problem. but someone stated earlier in a post that ratcet and clank/zelda shouldnt be here? i think those are close enough.
Originally posted by SapphoThey;re not "Adventure" games though. 😬
well i mean if people start listing halo and other games that far off from an actual adventure game, then we got a problem. but someone stated earlier in a post that ratcet and clank/zelda shouldnt be here? i think those are close enough.
They're "Action-adventure"... A different genre. You can call me pedantic... but I'm right 😄
Originally posted by Phoenix3068Fable 3 is an RPG. A Western Real Time RPG if we're going to be specific.
Then what about a game like Fable 3? The game starts with a character who goes through on a storyline but can free travel with the core purpose of the game to make your way to ruler and to defeat the darkness. That sounds like an adventure game by your definition.
Originally posted by Phoenix3068
Then what about a game like Fable 3? The game starts with a character who goes through on a storyline but can free travel with the core purpose of the game to make your way to ruler and to defeat the darkness. That sounds like an adventure game by your definition.
Well I've only played the first of the series, and it's been a while, but in the Fable games isn't the primary form of the gameplay action based, i.e. you press one button and it directly attacks with your sword, you press another button and it directly readies and fires an arrow, you press another button and it directly fires a spell etc.? For a game to be an adventure game it's required that there be a divorce between the action, if there is any, and your control over it. At best you direct a character into attempting a certain "action", however it's played out before you without your control and you have no influence over how effective it is or the success rate of it.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
I wouldn't say so. You just get idiots who don't know how to categorise them. There are pretty simple boundaries with the occasional game which branches into manyYou do see some silly people who say that Zelda is an RPG and stuff like that though. Which is pretty laughable, maybe Zelda 2 but that's about it. Action-Adventure is Zelda's genre. (Just like most games)
Agreed. It just seems like the intent of the thread was classic adventure games, and that finding anything with a tenuous link to the genre destroys the purpose.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
Grim Fandango takes it.Discworld Noir,
Broken Steel 1 + 2,
Monkey Island games,
Simon the Sorcerer games.And many more.
These all fit the bill, and are what I consider "Adventure" in every sense of the video gaming word.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
They;re not "Adventure" games though. 😬They're "Action-adventure"... A different genre. You can call me pedantic... but I'm right 😄
Fable 3 is an RPG. A Western Real Time RPG if we're going to be specific.
and in that case, i actually dont think i have a favorite just plain adventure game.
It may make the thread more productive in this case though, so it's possibly a good thing you did.
The only adventure game I've played in recent memory is Trace Memory. I am not as accustomed to this style of play as some are, but I was fairly intrigued by it. I don't think its considered a top game of the genre, but I have very few experiences for comparison.
It's made me want to play more adventure games, at the very least.