Will Humanity Live To See The Next 200 Years?

World over-population certainly is an issue. Of course, again, this is an rea of great exaggeration- many was the spokesperson in earlier decades who said the world would be unihabitable by the 21st century, let alone the 22nd.

In many areas, Humanity's abaility to adapt technologically has confounded earlier predictions; abaility to hande large populations has increased. likewise, the life expectancy of fossil fuels has been increased by more efficent methods.

But logically speaking, at some point, there must be a time when population really DOES get too much to handle, and if we are not out into the stars by then there could be trouble.

But I think it will take a long time- most likely more than 200 years- until that crisis point is reached.

well the urgency is in that a few degrees brings far more consequences than it being a bit warmer. evidence is always put forth of polar ice caps melting, temperature rising, sea lever rising...etc.

granted, many wackos jump on the environmentalist bandwagon and seem to dull the credibility of the arguement, but global warming is more than just a theory...its happening.

Temperature rising is one point in contention, PVS. There is no clear evidence that any machination of man is having any effect on global temperature. Inaccurate heat measuring methods are often sited as proof; they are not; satellite images, the most accurate we have, tell a different story. Such claims also ignore that considerable amounts of the polar ice shelves are increasing, not melting.

You say manmade global warming is more than a theory and happening? No, I do not believe you; the evidence I have seen points to that not being so, and this is part of the counter argument that, as I mention, people seem to not want to see.

It really does distress me how much people are only hearing one side of this issue.

now now, dont go throwing the word "manmade" into my mouth, since i never said it 😛

i think we contributed to it at least, with all the carbon dioxide we put into the atmosphere. but in the end, there is no way to prove if its our fault, a natural cycle of the earth, or a combination. whatever the cause of global warming, its happening.

i think that common sense should dictate that we should stop burning so much shit...especially since we dont have too.

I rather assumed, as the conversation was talking about humanity creating threats to itself, that the generally accepeted idea that man is contributing to global warming was the subject. Far fewer people are interested in natural temperate varitations; I was merely specifying to be clear.

Natural global warming is very unlikely to hurt humanity, so that still discounts the whole thing from the topic.

"It's happening," though, is still a statement which I do not believe is supported by fact. It implies the average trend for temperature on Earth is going upwards; that has never been proven.

Humans are like cockroaches, the earth will never be rid of them.

In fact, even that you mention carbon dioxide as a possible cause is a topic that is in dispute. There is no correlation there either.

thats the basis of the 'greenhouse effect'. theory like everything else.
there is no 'fact' in such studies of the pattern of climate of the earth.

Yet many people claim that there are, which is my issue, and people swallow it.

The carbon issue ois a particualr one. Carbon content in the atmosphere has increased over the past few decades. Evidence that this is manmade rather than natural is very small; evidence that it is natural very large.

But more importantly than that, whilst co2 content has risen, satellite temperature models have shown that temperaute, year to year, has gone up AND down, at normal variations as observed in temperature.

Which shows the point that there is absolutely no apparent link between co2 levels and temperature. co2 goes up, but temperature shows no crrelation to that. Establishing such correlation should be part of basic science, but has been ignored.

As notable sceptic John Daly said:

"While the atmospheric parts per million of CO2 have continually increased during recent decades, atmospheric temperatures have risen, and fallen, uninfluenced by any notions that some people may have about the powers of CO2. Atmospheric temperatures respond to realities, not myths."

well, there will never be evidence to support or deny that mankind is responsible for the increase in co2, but we do burn alot of shit dont we?
but yeah, it still cant be called fact, but by that same logic, it cant be written off as myth, or harmless.

Yes, we burn a lot of stuff, but I believe the debate is about proportion- some say that the amount given off by Man is the tiniest fraction to that given off naturally and so has no effect...

At the end of the day I am no scientist, and I cannot stand and say "manmade global warming will never happen." But every logical and objective instinct (and it is objective, as I have no innate reason to disbelieve the theory) shows me, from my research, that this is a disputed, two-sided issue, and I have never understood why the uncertainty of this issue is so well hidden. Like I say, it could well lead to us being badly ridiculed by posterity.

very true. its funny how it is either put forth as fact or complete myth.

it seems that those in power really dont care about the actual issue...but more for the advancement of their own political agenda related to it. whether it be the left pushing for the strictest e.p.a. standards, or the right calling for complete reckless abandon

What about nuclear war? Or biological weapon warfare?

Originally posted by Draco69
What about nuclear war? Or biological weapon warfare?

highly doubt that.. no one is gonna launch nukes at each other within the next 200 years..

thank you nostradomis.

case closed

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Originally posted by KidRock
highly doubt that.. no one is gonna launch nukes at each other within the next 200 years..

There are a lot of idiots out there!! Who think America is the "Evil Satan"
If they throw stones, don't you think we'd throw them back??

But they will probably start throwing stones at each other first.

lets see... the earth has been continually warming up since the last ice age ended. maybe after a certain point of warmth..another ice age will occur. theres lots of things that could cause the end of humanity, be it natural disastors, war, human stupidity, robots, or aliens. we'll jus wait and see. for all we know the world will end tomorrow. 2019 there may be a close asteroid to hit earth. most likely it wont happen but theres always that .1% of it happening.
we are trying to build artificial intelligence everyday, if we get to the point where it is as "smart" as humans, then they will evolve themselves and maybe even take out humanity.
war is always a factor for human life. we may all be in world war 3 by next week.

"From time to time, it is necesseary that Famine, pestilence, and war prune the luxuriant growth of the human race." ----Aristotle

So long as they only throw stones I think we'll be ok. Sticks and stones may break my bones...but names will never hurt me 😉

yes, we will.
We will create AI and they will be our slaves, but one robot who murders will spark a rebellion.
As man fight machine humans will realise the robots solar energy powering thingies wont work without the sun, so they will black out the sky, but that will fail.
So they all get caught and put in a big vitual world, and some will live underground in a rebellion, and they can travel into this virtual world, and it is there they will find the one.
After much CGI later humanity will prevail and will see another few hundred years

I think people are getting too scared about this. Live your life normally and if shit happens, it happens.