Originally posted by jinzin
if spidey can down im 2020 what makes you thing venom and carnage will have a problem with these guys?
Spidey's also wrecked Firelord and Surfer Carnage. Are you going to say Venom and Carnage can do the same? Spidey shouldn't have beaten either Firelord or Surfer Carnage but he did - talk about jobbing.
surfer carnage wasn't really twisted psychologically yet, surfer was holding the symbiote back and that really wasn't a fight for the most part.
Firelord,,,,,,,,that was spiderman at his absolute best, Best ever. but seriously both these guys can beat on spidey till the cows come home, if he can take ironman I have no doubt they can as well.
Originally posted by theflyxx
Nope. That's not my argument. That's the truth.Yup. Venom pretty much got the best of the Juggernaut in that one. 🙄
maybe you should post the whole comic rather than the part that best suits your argument.......... and besides, venom didn't seem hurt in the slightest there
Originally posted by Ironman
hey dilweed getting thrown threw to aparment rooms isnt nerly as bad as geting hit by a wooden plank
Dilweed? lol.
This fight was pretty lopsided right from the beginning, with the Jugernaut knocking Venom through the window into a car across the street. Venom recovered and landed 3 quick blows (his only ones), but apparently Juggernaut wasn't amused and simply batted Venom away. The Juggernaut then proceeded to smash a telephone pole across Venom's face, right before grinding it into the side of Venom's head which was pressed against the concrete from Juggy flattening him earlier.
The street gives way before Venom's face does and both combatants fall underground. There, some kind of living slime that begins "speaking" to Venom. The Juggernaut wasn't distracted at all and continued the brutal beating. He sandwiches Venom's head between his fists and then stomps Venom into the ground. You get the idea.
The beating was mercifully ended by a final punch from the Juggernaut sending Venom unconscious into the slime. The Juggernaut walks off assuming Venom was dead, as any sane man would considering what Venom just went through.
It was revealed in the next issue that The Juggernaut's pounding had in fact nearly killed Venom.
Maybe it's you who should re-read the Venom: The Madness.
Originally posted by Scoobless
maybe you should post the whole comic rather than the part that best suits your argument.......... and besides, venom didn't seem hurt in the slightest there
Of course Venom's not going to show any signs of pain on his face. He has a permanent grin on it.
At the end of the fight, Venom was beaten unconscious.
Yeah, Venom wasn't hurt. 🙄
ok think of this ok if the hulk nearly destroyed ironman then venom can to. If thanos punched ironmans head off venom can tendril ironman. Maybe you should review the read me again were not using preptimes or any outside weapons so those who say o he'd just scan venom and blah blah and use a sonic cannon well ur breakin da rules.
okay, you tell us to re read it then claim that venom was unconcious? NO HE WASN'T!
I'll agree he was hurtin in a bad way, even dying perhaps,,,,,,but it's nice how you forgot to mention that venom was distracted the first time they fought to the point of ignoring Juggernaught's blows.
Also, you seem to be ignoring the fact that venom handed juggs his ass the second AND third time they fought. Although the second fight doesn't hold water cause venom was "mutated" it's entirely possible that the new incarnation of venom is just as powerful since it'sbasically venom X2. Anyways by the third fight venom was pretty much back to normal and made juggernaught run away by the end of it. Crap writing excuses aside (it was venom's series what did you think would happen?!?) he ran the **** away.
Anyway's A LOT of venom's enemies have tried to take venom down with rockets and such. An entire brigade of Mace warriors tried to bring venom down with rockeets, lazers, sonic swords, and ummm well more rockets, and although venom was ****ed up by the end of it, there were nothin but mace corpses all around him and he was still kickin.
Venom as I said before not only tangled with the entire jury,,,,,,but spiderman at the same time and beat the ever loving crap out of all of them, by the end of that he walked off to go fight a giant monster easily stronger than himself, or as fatigued for that matter, and as venom was being burnt by flames all around him, he still manages to kick the monster's ass too.
a few rockets here and there aren't going to do much more than make venom an already pissed of venom hungrier. I digress, even if it came down to it, venom's symbiote releases a symbiotic scream and hordes and hordes of symbiotes travel through space overwhelming im and wm thus killing them,,,,,or converting them,,,,,however you wish.
Originally posted by Ironman
ok think of this ok if the hulk nearly destroyed ironman then venom can to. If thanos punched ironmans head off venom can tendril ironman. Maybe you should review the read me again were not using preptimes or any outside weapons so those who say o he'd just scan venom and blah blah and use a sonic cannon well ur breakin da rules.
How is Venom even on the same level as the Hulk? Ridiculous. Honestly.
Thanos didn't punch off Iron Man's head. It was Death who ripped it off. You really need to re-read your comics.
Anyhoo, breaking the rules? What rules? Since you created this thread, you might as well lay down the rules involved in this fight.
well it was a common mistake for me and the thanos thing ok. I have never read the infinity gaunlet seriese i dont know were i can get it. I just herd that thanos punched his head off. and no i am not saying hulk and venom are on the same level. But if hulk beat the crap outa ironman and venom gave hulk a run for his money then venom could take ironman
Originally posted by jinzin
okay, you tell us to re read it then claim that venom was unconcious? NO HE WASN'T!
I'll agree he was hurtin in a bad way, even dying perhaps,,,,,,but it's nice how you forgot to mention that venom was distracted the first time they fought to the point of ignoring Juggernaught's blows.
No, I didn't forget to mention Venom being distracted. Read my play by play post closely. I mentioned how Venom was listening to the mercury slime, yet the Juggernaut wasn't distracted at all.
As far as their 3rd fight is concerned, Venom STILL had the mercury slime within him when he faced the Juggernaut the 3rd time around.
Bottom line, Venom (sans mercury slime) got whipped by the Juggernaut. If normal Venom can get manhandled by the Juggernaut, there's no way that Venom would realistically have a chance against Superman (superspeed, laser vision, super strength, blah, blah, blah) or the Hulk.
All of this offtopic discussion about Venom legitimately being able to take on the Hulk and Superman is lunacy.
Originally posted by Ironman
well it was a common mistake for me and the thanos thing ok. I have never read the infinity gaunlet seriese i dont know were i can get it. I just herd that thanos punched his head off. and no i am not saying hulk and venom are on the same level. But if hulk beat the crap outa ironman and venom gave hulk a run for his money then venom could take ironman
How does "giving a run for his money" equate to actually defeating the Hulk?
Besides, your logic is flawed. If A can beat B, and B can beat C, it doesn't always mean that A can beat C.
ummm the mercury slime was dying 9almost dead) by the time the third fight came around, venom says he would go return it, but he has to save beck first. The mercury wasn't exactly helping him out too much if at all by the time they threw down again.
and realistically my ass! I thought we were talking comics here?