-=- Contradiction -=-

Originally posted by finti
according to this Mary and Joseph should be brother and sister.

take a look at it again debbiejoe this dude cant make up his mind of whom died childless, jacob or heli

Joseph,according to the bible, wasnt jesus real father, end of story. And the christ part is nothing more than a christian belief/hope and no fact, it bear no more truth than Odin being the head of the gods.

Sorry, maybe the material was incorrectly published

naturally .. no, He was not.
legally .. yes, He was

But by God's promise .. He was still the Son of God - from the line of David - descendants of Abraham 🙂

Besides, the question was answered: Who is the father of Joseph? Heli or Jacob?

Legally, it was Heli.
Naturaly, it was Jacob.

🙂

Besides, the question was answered: Who is the father of Joseph? Heli or Jacob?

Originally posted by RavenNightstar
Ok, all of this is exactly why I left catholism behind. Too many unanswered questions.

One of the things that bothered me about Eve is that Eve & Adam had three sons. Therefore, to create the rest of the population, Eve would have had to have bore children from her sons. She then had daughters. If any of this is true, we are built on incest from the very beginning!

how did they come about and why should the sin of two affect the lot

Wow, debbiejo, you know your stuff! i will add, hope you don't mind, this is how i was taught. ok, you talked about the fall of adam, many people say it was a sin, but if adam and eve didn't have the knowladge between right and wrong before, they where innocent, so they could not sin, or transgress, knowingly do wrong.
And god only said as long as Adam and Eve wanted to exist in the garden they could not eat the fruit, so Adam knew what he had to do, eat the apple so gods plan (life, death, reserection)could go on.
So i don't believe that Adam sinned in eating the fruit, neither did Eve. And so we will not pay for that, it just passes pain on to us. But that is why we are here, to feel pain and be tested.
I don't believe that children msut be baptized at birth to be saved, if they die before the age of accountability (8) than they have no sin. but people must eventually be baptized before progressing.
And my last view on the bible, is that it is an amazing book, full of good things. But it can't all be perfect, think of what it's been through, all the people who have passed it on, it must have lost something.
bottom line, God is allways correct, even if things done by human hands aren't.

Ummm...I was kinda proved wrong... 😮....There are many contradictions...though your view is quite different....Mormon?

Originally posted by Koala MeatPie

Another thing, everywhere it says to forgive others... but in the Old Testiment God Says directly to the people of a small village "An eye for an Eye a tooth for a tooth" meaning... Revenge is aceptable.

Matthew 5:38 - You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth

So If people can just clear this out for me, pelase, thank you. I will try and find the exact versus for thoes statement thought.

You do realise that The eye for an eye tooth for a tooth statement wasn't God's way of saying get your own back, but statement telling his people to share out the land evenly because the Israelites were squabbling over who owns which pieces of land at the time. (Ironically they are still doing this today but on a bigger scale!!)

Anyway looking at the bible from a non-Christian viewpoint, it is still impossible to contradict itself. Why? Because the Bible is open to interpretation. There aren't guidelines saying this Bible verse should or shouldn't be taken literally. Therefore it can't contradict itself.

Originally posted by finti
how did they come about and why should the sin of two affect the lot

because some people believe that in the Bible Adam and Eve represented whole tribes of people. so the biting of the apple represented the general fall of man. I personally don't believe this but some people do.........

Originally posted by finti
the original question was about the difference in jesus genealogy in Mattherw and Luke, the father of joseph was just the beginning.
And for the line of David`s house down to jesus, jesus wasnt the son of joseph by blood and Marys genealogy which they just really guessing what it is like is said to be of Davids lineage, but no record really shows her line. Which again lead to that this lineage can easily be manipulated into supporting the so called prophecy.

Jury has already answered your question mate. Jesus was part by blood part adopted, part of God's promise to us in his covenant.

point is about a direct bloodline

Wow !!! A contradiction in the bible... how unexpected !

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Originally posted by willRules
Because the Bible is open to interpretation. There aren't guidelines saying this Bible verse should or shouldn't be taken literally. Therefore it can't contradict itself.

That's the reasons for all the denominations...Now, which one is correct?

Originally posted by debbiejo
That's the reasons for all the denominations...Now, which one is correct?

None of them necessarily are or aren't. The bottom line of being a Christian is accepting Christ as your Lord and savior, making him the lord of your life, and striving to be like him.

Originally posted by Echuu
None of them necessarily are or aren't. The bottom line of being a Christian is accepting Christ as your Lord and savior, making him the lord of your life, and striving to be like him.

What about is he god or the son of god?...meaning that you shouldn't worship him because it would be worshiping another god, and not Jehovah type god...Putting other gods before him.??

Originally posted by debbiejo
What about is he god or the son of god?...meaning that you shouldn't worship him because it would be worshiping another god, and not Jehovah type god...Putting other gods before him.??

No Jesus is part of the trinity. Jehovah is another name for God.

Originally posted by Echuu
No Jesus is part of the trinity. Jehovah is another name for God.

That is one belief...and there are others that don't believe in the trinity...so, which one is correct??....no worship goes to Jesus....cause Jesus is not Jehovah...

Originally posted by debbiejo
That is one belief...and there are others that don't believe in the trinity...so, which one is correct??....no worship goes to Jesus....cause Jesus is not Jehovah...

If those people who don't believe in the trinity are using a biblical base they are incorrect. The worship goes to the trinity as a whole. It goes to God for loving us so much to send his son, Jesus the son for dieing for us, and the holy spirit for being the tool in Christ' absence which brings us closer to him.