However, the people who believe that Superman is 1,000,000,000 times stronger than the Hulk are sadly mistaken. Hulk has feats of strength in the past that exceed many of Superman's. Supporting a 150,000,000,000 ton mountain during the Secret Wars is far from Hulk's greatest feat of strength. Hulk holding apart spheres of matter and antimatter is perhaps the greatest feat of strength in comic book history.
Scientifically, no it's not. First we have to ignore the fact the antimatter sphere should explode along with Hulks hand when he touches it or even by being in contact with the air itself. Comic book physics and all that. Since the two sphere are attracted to each other they must both be charged. Their attraction depend solely on how big the charge on each one is. The fact that one of them is antimatter doesn't make the force infinite.
Originally posted by GalvaclawHulk was once shot with a concentrated beam of antimatter, and it had little affect on him. I suppose he's not made of normal matter. Go figure.
Scientifically, no it's not. First we have to ignore the fact the antimatter sphere should explode along with Hulks hand when he touches it or even by being in contact with the air itself. Comic book physics and all that. Since the two sphere are attracted to each other they must both be charged. Their attraction depend solely on how big the charge on each one is. The fact that one of them is antimatter doesn't make the force infinite.
Have you ever seen the issue? The spheres were a part of a bomb.
One part of the bomb was matter (protons, thus, positively charged,) and the other, antimatter (antiprotons, thus negatively charged.)
What Hulk did should have been impossible. Spiderman sure made a big deal about it, so it must be big stuff.
What Hulk did should have been impossible. Spiderman sure made a big deal about it, so it must be big stuff.
Apart from touching antimatter what Hulk did was possible. The attraction was nowhere near infinite. If each Orb weighed a ton and was composed solely of protons/anti-protons, each would have a charge of 1 x10^11 coulombs. The force between them would be 5.625x10^30 newtons. Which would indeed make him incredibly powerful.
Having them weigh a ton is selling them short. If they were balls of pure protons/anti-protons their density would be incredible. They would be like small neutron stars and have comparable mass to the Earth. Since theire's no strange gravitational effects observed one is likely made of a standard metal and the other from it's antimatter equivalent. This would greatly reduce the force needed to separate them. I could work it out but, it's too much work.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Apart from touching antimatter what Hulk did was possible. The attraction was nowhere near infinite. If each Orb weighed a ton and was composed solely of protons/anti-protons, each would have a charge of 1 x10^11 coulombs. The force between them would be 5.625x10^30 newtons. Which would indeed make him incredibly powerful.Having them weigh a ton is selling them short. If they were balls of pure protons/anti-protons their density would be incredible. They would be like small neutron stars and have comparable mass to the Earth. Since theire's no strange gravitational effects observed one is likely made of a standard metal and the other from it's antimatter equivalent. This would greatly reduce the force needed to separate them. I could work it out but, it's too much work.
Wow, you're pretty darn smart. Thanks for the info.
Actually I think that the comic implys that both were made of antimatter. The comic-lingo is a little confusing. 😬
Go figure.
Anyway it's still a damn impressive feat.
Originally posted by MattDay
superman has been shot, punched, fcked, kicked by anything so much more powerful than hulk so why argue with what u already know!
Hulk has been hit by some pretty powerful stuff too. In fact, he once deflected a universe destroying attack with his hands. You have to look at both sides of the coin. Both Superman and the Hulk are incredibly powerful.
They're both strong as hell, but Superman has better powers. And more of them, too.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
You tried to use a movie based off the ultimates to try to argue Comic hulk was stronger than Superman. Ultimate Avengers is rather obviously not canon to mainstream marvel which means using it in an argument is worthless.Show me a scan of Hulk lifting Mylolnir in a marvel comic set in the 616 universe and we'll talk.
(Excuse the lateness of my reply) The title of this thread is "who is stronger: superman or hulk?", there is no particular mention of which version of these two characters this debate is to be based on, therefore any version of superman or hulk may be considered.
put it this way, no way would hulk lift that with physics being involved, he's crack the floor trying to lift it and fall into the crack, (he cant fly) superman is stronger and can hold the weight without adding unnecessary pressure from struggling or (hulking up) don't care, superman is a better hero, better powers, oh and has some of the best comics out there, not saying loads, but has his fair share.
Originally posted by MattDay
asia is not a country u nugget, asia is india, amoung other countries... anyway your calculations make no sense
what an idiot. asia is a continent, containing many countries. Saying this in a different way, a small rock is closer to the size of a pebble than it is to a huge boulder.
Always understand the statement before saying something stupid about it.
put it this way, no way would hulk lift that with physics being involved, he's crack the floor trying to lift it and fall into the crack, (he cant fly) superman is stronger and can hold the weight without adding unnecessary pressure from struggling or (hulking up) don't care, superman is a better hero, better powers, oh and has some of the best comics out there, not saying loads, but has his fair share. [/QUOTE]
Hulk falling into the crack or whatever holds no logical reason for him not having enough strength to lift it.
The title of this thread is "who is stronger: superman or hulk?", there is no particular mention of which version of these two characters this debate is to be based on, therefore any version of superman or hulk may be considered.
Fair enough. But your argument is still flawed. Superman was strong enough to overcome the enchantment on 616 Thor's hammer. There is no evidence whether Ultimate Avengers Thor has that enchantment on his hammer or whether it's just really heavy or if the magic is just not a strong. Besided that your not suggesting the hulk from that movie is stronger than Superman from the comics.
if you look at it realistically hulk can't lift anything that would make him fall into the floor from extreme weight unless he lifts it on adamantium, otherwise he can't lifts certain objects, an old saying is, "no one can do what superman can do, better than him". don't mess with old sayings, they stand the test of time for a reason... even fan boys like u guys
Originally posted by Up In FlamesOK if you want to be like that, All star Superman was pushing against the equivalent of 200 quintilliontons (is that even a word?) something like 200 billion tonne with one arm. But fortunately for you I think people should stick to Hulk from 616 and Current post crisis Supes.
(Excuse the lateness of my reply) The title of this thread is "who is stronger: superman or hulk?", there is no particular mention of which version of these two characters this debate is to be based on, therefore any version of superman or hulk may be considered.
billion is a lot smaller than quintillion which is a few notches up lol yeah that's alot, the earth still weighs more than that, due to estimates by scientists, but he did with no effort so he could push the planet out of orbit, or should i say has the great potential of doing so. hulk goes down anyway