first off goku would kill superman or hulk o and hulk can beat superman when enraged hulk has power of an god goku is better bcuz he can go super saiyan 4 o and is stronger wen he fuses with vegeta wen he is gogeta he can rape both superman and hulk lol goku can die from deasese but superman can die from kryptonite and hulk can die from him being able to transform at will. kill bruce banner while he is sleeping o and goku can instant transmission kryptonite into supermans body o and with a kamehameha superman is out and goku can do martial arts superman is vulnerable to death hence the movie death of superman period point blank(goku v hulk or superman goku wins)(hulk v superman hulk wins)
Originally posted by emporerpants
get out of here with that goku shit.
im a huge goku fan thus hints the username but uh i really dont know lol.....they are both gods of their genres.... i dont know whowould win they both have something going for em...but the question was...hulk or superman....not goku
well, the superman vs goku thing was argued to death in a different thread that is closed now i believe. it was pretty obvious to everyone who read that thread that superman would crush any form of goku. its also obvious to anyone who has read both superman comics and dbz. i used to be a huge dbz fan too, and i still like dbz alot. superman would totally destroy goku though, its just the way it is.
oh, and thanks, haha. yeah, i think my sig is pretty awesome, hence it being my sig. oh, and twilight princess rocks. i've beaten that game twice, haha.
in a fight, superman wins every damn time. his speed advantage combined with his other powers gives him the win everytime. as for who's stronger, superman is usually stronger, but hulk can potentially get stronger if he gets angry enough. maybe. imo supes strength feats beat out anything hulk has done. but hulk still has potential to get stronger depending on his anger. maybe. but he wouldn't last long enough to get that angry in a fight.
this poll must have been answered by ppl with no logical thought processor. Um the Hulk by definition is the embodiment of strength. It has been stated both by his creator and beings within the universe that he is the strongest(potentially) physical being. Why is this even up for discussion. Are we forgetting the beatdown superman underwent to Doomsday? Now are we putting current hulk bellow doomsday? Now superman has an upper limit, he has never been defined otherwise. Sure you can make the argument that no limit has been stated. Yet we have seen him at his limits on multiple occasions. Please lets also not make the claim that he wasn't trying because when the universe is in danger and your strength isn't enough I think it's safe to say you've met your limit.
With hulk though that claim doesn't stand. The reason is because if hulk doesn't get put down he is only getting stronger throughout a match. We see this over and over again so it's not unheard of. With superman we see him hit limits over and over and over again. Then he takes a sundip to surpass said limitation but even that has it's limits. Seriously people come into these things with logical thought.
sorry for double post. Why do people like to pretend superman is fighting at the speed of light? Even when he's letting loose? Are we reading different comics? The ones I read superman is getting tagged by things moving at regular speeds and said things are bringing him to near death sometimes. So please put your fanboyism aside when you bring superman into a battle. If your gonna make battles based on powerset and not average showings then what's the point. All your doing is taking someone OOC to serve your purpose.
hmm, hulks strength is limitless? well it certainly seemed to have a limit when he got owned by red hulk so....yeah. didn't really seem to me like he "just kept getting stronger" seemed to me like he flat out lost. ouch. supes hold back all the time, and he also subconsciously hold back. his old limits really aren't his limits anymore, as he surpassed them all the time.
also, are you really using doomsday as an example? supes has gotten so much stronger since then, its not even funny. you'd know that if you actually read superman comics.
also, superman speed blitzes all the time. just because he doesn't always do it doesn't mean you can take the ability away from him. this is kmc, characters fight to the best of their ablities. which includes the speed blitz for superman. you are familiar with the rules of the forum right? he doesn't do it every damn time for the same reason the flash doesn't. there wouldn't be a interesting comic to read. but he HAS doen it plenty of times in the past, thus it can be used.
superman is very modest about his abilities. he always sells himself short as to what he can really do. once again, you'd know this if you ever read superman comics instead of just used wikipedia or read things off the net.
seriously, 90% of the people on kmc who are respected and know their comics give supes the win over hulk. deal it.
well, its the most recent showing for hulk isn't it? if he had limitless strength that could be called upon in the blink of an eye wouldn't he do it then? and doesn't loeb like the hulk? and isn't he known for wanking characters he likes?
besides, if hulk's strength is limitless, shouldn't he have been able to stalemate red hulk? over powered or not. limitless is limitless right? i know what you're saying, loeb sucks. but that doesn't mean we can totally write off everything he writes just because he wrote it. he's currently defining the hulk right now, and until someone better takes over writing hulk, its just the way it is. its still whats currently happening in the comic.
if you want to complain about something, complain about the watcher getting punked. that was a load of pis, haha.
Dude, how can you include a story in this debate in which Loeb blatantly ignores abilities we've see for 40+ years? We see no sign of him getting stronger with anger or healing. I refuse to include a story in this debate that ignores some of his most prized abilities. It's like Superman fighting an alternate version of himself, but the version we know doesn't fly, has no heat vision, and no superspeed. I wouldn't want to include a version like that of Supes in a debate either.
how do we know hulk wasn't getting stronger? wouldn't it be logical to conclude that the red hulk was getting stronger as well? what it seems like loeb was showing is that the hulk's healing factor can be overloaded if he's getting his ass kicked hard enough, and although his strength may very well be limitless, he can be beat before his strength becomes greater than is foe.
you act as if the hulk has never lost before. or been over powered. didn't juggernaut start pushing the hulk back in world war hulk x-men? didn't world breaker hulk get taken out by a satelite? didn't he run out of gamma energy fighting sentry? hasn't hulk lost to thor?
The Red Hulk doesn't get stronger as he gets angrier, he gets hotter, which disproves that statement right there. And we know Hulk wasn't getting stronger because he got choked until he passed out which is something that has never happened before to him. Also, I never said the Hulk hasn't lost before, because like every hero, he has lost. It's just pointless to include a version that ignores most of his abilities.
well, theres a first time for everything. although i'll agree with you on him getting choked out, as i didn't think the hulk really needed to breath last time i checked. well, if red hulk doesn't get stronger then his base was just that much higher than normal hulks, and hulk couldn't reach red hulks normal strength before getting taken out.
also, if hulks strength is limitless, how was juggs pushing him back? whatever the case may be, there are numerous examples in the comics that disprove this whole idea of the hulk getting limitless strength in a split second. he can be and in this case would be, beaten before his strength eclipses the person he's fighting.
keep in mind that i'm not saying the hulk couldn't get stronger than superman. its just the hulk would lose before that happened.