REAL Punk Music

Actually, Punk in Drublic was released in 94. Check out thier website and Epitaph's website and you would see that it was released in 94. So Long was released after Heavy Petting Zoo/Eating Lamb in 97. That makes that 7-8 years ago.
Did I misinperet a smile? What are you talking about?
And your right. War on Errorism was the first "political" record. Im sorry.
I didnt say that have subgenre's is a bad thing, but people say some band isnt punk but scremo/emo. Wouldnt that be a subgenre in the punk genre? If it is, couldnt you say its punk?, its in the genre Alot of these subgenres have been started because of punk. Emo started because the musicians liked punk but wanted it to be emo ( i dont know exactly what emo is, nonbody has every clearly stated what emo is, the only thing ive heared its emotional music but some punk have emotional lyrics but the chord progression and timing is clearly punk).

I dont know what punk is and I dont think alot of people who listen to punk now what it is. But **** off if you think you have to know what punk is to listen to it. The bands that started the whole genre played because of attitude. They sucked a playing the instruments and had horrible music, but the attitude that they had made what punk is. Do you think the Sex Pistols went out and played to showcase thier skills and make money?

Ha, so it was. My mistake. That makes it about 8-1 overall.

Simile. I hope that was a joke, because if it wasn't I think you might need to go to school.

Kind of. Emo is more a subgenre of hardcore, which used to be a subgenre of punk, but it's evolved beyond punk now. Emo is basically hardcore mixed with a little bit of punk, with whiney vocals, teen angst lyrics and poppy hooks. It also relies heavily on dominant guitar chords (often). Screamo is emo but with more erratic time changes, harder guitars and more screamed/growled vocals. Musically-wise it can sometimes be close to punk, attitude/lyric/presentation-wise it's definitely not punk.

I'll thank you not to question my knowledge of punk, my father grew up in the punk explosion and knows more about it than any person I know. He worked for a punk magazine for three years, and has pretty much passed his love of it on to me. And please, early punk bands had horrible music you say? Ever heard The Ramones or The Clash or The Damned or The Stranglers etc? Amazing, energetic, raw music.

Yeah REAL punk music is like The Ramones, Dead Kennedys (sp?), The Clash and Teh Sex Pistols.....

Originally posted by DEFCON One
punk bands:
The Used

I assumed you knew something about it and Im not arguing with you to see who knows more. If you didnt know already, Im arguing because I feel the "new" punk being released now, is getting kinda of old to me. But, if they're something out there that I feel is different, send them my way.
What I meant by horrible music was that its that easy to write and play but thats not why its great. Its great because it is raw, intense and different (compared to what was out at the time).
I also know about punk, not as much as you, but I still do. What my problem is that I dont know all these subgenres now. They confuse me now because nonbody really knows what bands are in what genres. You say one thing, somebody else says another. When I say Bigwig is punk, you call them nu metal, while somebody calls them heavy metal.
I do know who the Sex Pistols, The Clash and who The Ramones are, Im not that retarded.
Just curious about why you called Bigwig wannabes? I like them because its heavy, great guitar licks, and they're live show kicks ass.

thrash metal is a sub genra of punk its like a punk heavy metal fusion my band wins over old school punk fans all the time

I don't know, i get sick of people who listen to nothing but good charlotte, Yellow Card, and Spank 182 and then go to good shows and start fights. At the same time, the elitist dicks in the Crass T-shirts who will kick your ass if you don't listen to what they consider to be punk (usually any band that sounds exactly like agnostic front) piss me off too. the bottom line is, don't be a retard.
If a band flaunts the punk thing or is advertised as such, they're probably douches. At the same time, just because a band is on a major lable or on mtv, doesn't mean they're sellouts.
The Ramones, Sex Pistols, Clash, and X were all on major lables.
The Ramones and TSOL had videos on MTV.

What I hate is the crazy loon's who try to actually kill people in the pit. Im talking punching and kicking the crap out of people. Thats not cool.

everyone says that "real punk" is all the hardcore heavy stuff. But the real punk rock is bands like the Ramones and the Clash, and I wouldnt call them hardcore.

do you mean the guys with swastikas Smas?

Well whatever they wear but usually yes.
Whenever somebody fell, I would always make the effort to stop them from getting trampled. Its common courtesy. These guys/girls could care less. I also hate crowd surfers, argh!

i hate driving the lead singer of your fave band to a meeting and finding out he's a dick.

my fav. are
casualties
sex pistols
slf
exploited
the damned

did anybody know crass?