Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
Spide Sense doesnt save spidey here if Nightwing Throws More Than a couple stuff while they bot are on the circus wires doing flips in mid air.
Besides, Nightwing is a human, and Spidey has reflexes 30-40 times faster than a human. Alot of people underestimate Spidey in these types of fights because of the claim that he doesn't have the "skill." Believe me, if Nightwing had the experience and skills Spidey had in the air, and taht's not to mention his abilities, then he'd be much better off. We're talkin' about a guy who's had over 40 years real world time in swinging from a thread from very high spots in the air. Plus the guy swing really fast thanks to maneuverability, sometimes faster than the cars on the road below.
Originally posted by Mainstream
da da da da da da da da da da (circus music) if Nightwing can fight half as good as his "daddy" he'd take out Spidey.
Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
If the shocker gave Spiderman trouble then any one can.
If Spidey gave the Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, The X-Men, The FF, and Thanos trouble on multiple occasions, don't you find it quite odd that a guy like Shocker who basically shoots streams of energy at Spidey could possibly give him trouble? Spidey should've danced around his attacks all day until he got tired and blitzed the guy. Leaving him KO'ed and ready for the police.
I always compared Nightwing from DC with Beast from Marvel when talking about agility. Beast is more agile, but not that much. Nightwing can be awesome from times, but Spider-Man still takes this.
And not disrespecting Nightwing, but Spider-Man will only have it a bit difficult when underestimating Nightwing and holding back.
Nightwing Would struggle in the fight but at the circus he could beat Spidey just by cutting his webs as Nightwing swings on the circus wires and then throw a barage of Nightarangs(w/e the hell they are called) to take the match.
Spidey Gets caught off guard but Spidey Sense makes him dodge 5 of the ten Nightarangs Nighwing threw. Nightwing could throw ten or maybe more depending if Hes using the disks witch fits between each of his fingers are just mini bombs.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
And being faster, more agile, stronger, more durable, more enduring et., etc. than Nightwing, he shouldn't have a problem with the guy oin hand-to-hand.Besides, Nightwing is a human, and Spidey has reflexes 30-40 times faster than a human.
One, he is not faster. Two, he MIGHT be more agile, but that is arguable. Three, how is he more durable?
Four, his reflexes are not 30-40x times faster than a human's. Such exaggeration -- I thought you knew about Spidey?
Try 15x faster, and that comes into the equation if he is far enough away. He cannot dodge bullets at gunpoint, but Daredevil has deflected them with his Billy Club at close range.
Originally posted by Mainstream
I'm a huge fan of both but Nightwing fighting skill and gagets could even this fight up and they did get prep time right?
Besides the fact that Spidey's agility was too good for any martial art, his fighting style can't be matched, it's been proven over the course of 40 years worth of characters and above, none have had a fighting style as unique and as useful as Spidey's.
His durability, strength, speed, agility, perceptiveness, and strong-will among other things would really boost his chances againsta regular human in the field of combat. What people fail to realize is that even if their gadgetry is really advanced, the spider sense can warn them of their use in combat instances before they are used. The guy has reflexews 30-40 times faster than that of a human to dodge attacks from just about every angle, agility Spidey uses to dance around everything from gunshots to galactic energy blasts. My point is, when you take all of Spidey's abilities into perspective, then there really isn't any point to use projectiles, and hand to hand is nothing new to Spidey, he could just speedblitz Nightwing faster than he could counter or react to it. I don't care what kind of skill he has, unless he's someone like Supes or Flash or someone who can turn themselves intagible in the blink of an eye, you ain't gonna avoid a speedblitz courtesy of Spidey, I can't see how he could.
Originally posted by Never
One, he is not faster. Two, he MIGHT be more agile, but that is arguable. Three, how is he more durable?Four, his reflexes are not 30-40x times faster than a human's. Such exaggeration -- I thought you knew about Spidey?
Try 15x faster, and that comes into the equation if he is far enough away. He cannot dodge bullets at gunpoint, but Daredevil has deflected them with his Billy Club at close range.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
There was a page displaying Spidey fighting the Hul,k and Spidey said it himself that he had reflexes 30-40 times faster than a human. It came from the guy himself. Not some random comic book fan, but the comic, it's not an exaggeration.
And Gladiator said that his eye beams can reignite stars.
Wolverine says "I'm the best at what I do."
And...?
Spidey's bio states ~15x faster than a human's.
His reflexes are not 30-40x faster than a human's.
"Spider-Man's overall metabolic efficiency has been greatly increased, and the composition of his skeleton, inter-connected tissues, and nervous system have all been enhanced. Spider-Man's musculature has been augmentedso that he can lift (press) about 10 tons. His reflexes are faster than an average human by about a factor of 15 (he is often able to dodge bullets, if he is far enough away)."
Marvel Universe, and he has not been retconned.
And obviously Never, you really don't read Spidey comics as often as you should for a debate, at least get your information from a site if you don't want to read the comics.
He is faster, he can run up to speeds of 100mph, he can dodge bullets when far enough away, and that distance doesn't have to be too widespread mind you, especially with the spider sense, he could dodge multiple bullets at POINT BLANK RANGE with the spider sense. DD doesn't even have Spidey speed much less Spidey reflexes so, him blocking bullets with a billy club is just a bad example.
He is more durable, obviously. He shrugs off Ock's tentacles, Rhino's charges, trades punches with Venom, Carnage, and multiple Goblins, he's dented steel doors when thrown into them, he shakes of being thrown into and through brick walls, I could go on and on about how much more durabale Spidey is than Nightwing.