That crazy Putin guy.

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KharmaDog Dyslexic Agnostic

That crazy Putin guy.

According to Russia's Interfax news agency, Vladimir Putin said he is convinced Iran is not trying to develop nuclear weapons and that Russia will continue cooperating with Iran on its nuclear program. Russia also has stated that they will continue to sell weapons to long-time customers such as Syria (including shoulder launched anti aircraft missiles).

Putin also recently restructured his countries elections process, giving himself a great deal more power, cracked down on independent media, has continued his repression of business executives who oppose his government and is reasserting the Kremlin's old-style central control.

Many in the Bush administration (and other political observers) feel that Putin is “on the verge of isolating himself" by adhering to such policies.

Any thoughts?

Bardock42 Junior Member

Oh well, that surely is not good, but for the weapon selling part, why should only make the US money with terrorists?
Well the UN has to see if they become a threat to others. It would be sad since they were somehow on the way to become part of the "free world" more. I would have even liked to see them in the EU but well thats just me.

Linkalicious Iran...I Walked...I Jihad

Right now I'm not all that concerned with Russia's actions, atleast until Thursday when Bush is supposed to meet with Putin in Slovakia (i think that's where they are meeting)

Whether it works or not, I'm kind of proud that Bush is out in Europe all week long talking to and meeting with various leaders.

One thing I didn't quite understand was how Bush could say that an armed conflict in Iran was no where in the plans as of yet....but that they "haven't ruled anything out yet." Sure he was refering to a diplomatic means of handling the situation....but it seemed like that "anything" could have meant war too.

Clovie -~=¤=~-

yeah, they are meeting but no idea why would it change anything, do you thing mr bush has an impact of european/russian decissions? 😖

Linkalicious Iran...I Walked...I Jihad

Not while he was Mr. Gung-ho guns a blazing at the first sign of a fight. But this whole unified E.U.-U.S. thing seems to be taking a different approach, with a more optomistic tone to it.

Russia selling weapons to Iran isn't really a big deal as long as an armed conflict doesn't result. If one does...then I'm sure the US will be pissed that Russia is still continuing to sell arms to Iran. But that issue will be adressed after the decision to use force has been made.

Bardock42 Junior Member

Of course he hasm to good or bad. But the US is important anyway.

MC Mike Voice of the Voiceless

He's doign what the US used to do. *shrugs*

yerssot Senior Member

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Not while he was Mr. Gung-ho guns a blazing at the first sign of a fight. But this whole unified E.U.-U.S. thing seems to be taking a different approach, with a more optomistic tone to it.

Russia selling weapons to Iran isn't really a big deal as long as an armed conflict doesn't result. If one does...then I'm sure the US will be pissed that Russia is still continuing to sell arms to Iran. But that issue will be adressed after the decision to use force has been made.


it depends, overhere we are still very sceptic about his recent sucking-up-campaign and not many are convinced about his intentions

the US shouldn't butt into the economics of another country, if Russia wants to do that, they can. It's their choice... it's not cause Bush wants a new war to divert attention to someplace else that Russia should listen to them

BackFire Blood. It's nature's lube

"That crazy Putin guy."

Bah, I thought this thread was about Bill Cosby.

smoker4 Me name be Leon

I thought it was about golf?

finti Senior Member

golf, gulf.middle east well.............. I guess it is about golf

Ou Be Low hoo Restricted

As the saying goes..."Putin is as Putin does".

eleveninches God of my own world

Re: That crazy Putin guy.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
According to Russia's Interfax news agency, Vladimir Putin said he is convinced Iran is not trying to develop nuclear weapons and that Russia will continue cooperating with Iran on its nuclear program. Russia also has stated that they will continue to sell weapons to long-time customers such as Syria (including shoulder launched anti aircraft missiles).

Putin also recently restructured his countries elections process, giving himself a great deal more power, cracked down on independent media, has continued his repression of business executives who oppose his government and is reasserting the Kremlin's old-style central control.

Many in the Bush administration (and other political observers) feel that Putin is “on the verge of isolating himself" by adhering to such policies.

Any thoughts?


Well, what i cant stand is the hyppocrasy of the american's.
The americans have (in the last 10 years) used their weapons far more often than iran or syrria. America is far less reluctant to use thir weapons. And yet they believe that they should be allowed weapons, and that other countries should not have such weapons, even when those countries are more in need of weapons to defend themself with.
I think that they should disarm Bush!!
And about the weapons inspectors, I cant remember any UN weapons inspectors that have been allowed into area 51 to examine the top secret US military projects. There are clearly US military projects that the UN has no idea about (just look at the stealth bomber. That was in production, and th UN had no idea about it).

finti Senior Member

(just look at the stealth bomber. That was in production, and th UN had no idea about it).
why should the UN know about that?

eleveninches God of my own world

Because they were wanting to know about top-secret iraq military projects, why shouldn't they know about US ones. US uses its military more often than iraq does

finti Senior Member

Because they were wanting to know about top-secret iraq military projects, why shouldn't they know about US ones
Who actually cares for what the Un wants, even Norway doesnt spill their guts to the Un about weapons they make. That the Un wanted to know about Iraqi weapons well thats on their behalf. Fact is that Iraq would use and have used weapons of mass destruction on civilians, guess the Un would make sure Iraq didnt do that again. As long as a country dont use weapons Un dont have a bloody thing they could say about countries gaining those kind of weapon and so should it be with others countries too. If Norway wanted to get nukes into their arsenal it would be Norways business and no one elses

eleveninches God of my own world

If no countries tell the UN about their sectret military projects, why would Iraq or syria be expected to do so.

ragesRemorse Senior Member
Originally posted by eleveninches
Because they were wanting to know about top-secret iraq military projects, why shouldn't they know about US ones. US uses its military more often than iraq does

The stealth bomber is not exactly a weapon. It may carry weapons, but the stealth bomber has no weapons on it. I'm sure there is more to the guidelines of informing the U.N on top secret projects. Does a country that is working on a top secret project to sustain a soldiers stamina have to inform the U.N? The top secret probably has to be nuclear or biological before it is any concern of the U.N. I dont know though, but who really cares about an airplane? even if it is bad ass.

finti Senior Member

If no countries tell the UN about their sectret military projects, why would Iraq or syria be expected to do so.
Iraq used them, Syria well that is actually none of Un`s business

eleveninches God of my own world
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
but who really cares about an airplane? even if it is bad ass.

Um, the people who got bombed by it definatly cared. THe (1st) gulf war was won almost single handedly by the stealth bomber. THe iraqis had no way of detecting it, and shot down more of their own planes in an attempt to shoot down the stealths.