There was no need for ww2

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interesting

There was no need for World War II. Adolf Hitler was doing everything he could to come to peace terms with Britain, but Winston Churchill would not have it. Churchill knew of the many peace offers coming from the German government. He knew that neither Hitler nor any other Nazi leaders wanted to fight Britain...........
The peace offer Hitler had in mind, if Britain would assume a neutral position, was such an astounding offer that Herbert Hoover, when he was told of Hitler's terms from Ambassador Kennedy, gasped: "Why didn't the British accept?" "Nothing but Churchill's bullheadedness," replied Kennedy.7 Kennedy's statement was enough to condemn Churchill as a war criminal.
Hitler did not want war. He was so against war that he said it would not do Germany any good, even if Germany won the war, as war would put an end to all his plans. "Hitler was not thinking of war," Albert Forster, 36-year-old district leader of Danzig, told Churchill, as "the Führer's immense social and cultural plans would take years to fulfill."

Hitler expressed this opinion: "A European war would be the end of all our efforts even if we should win, because the disappearance of the British empire would be a misfortune which could not be made up again."11 He told the Dutch fascist leader Anton Mussert: "We have not the slightest reason to fight Britain. Even if we win, we gain nothing."12 Hitler was such an admirer of the British empire that he offered to defend the empire anywhere in the world with German troops should Britain ever need them.13
Hitler did not want to take over the world. This idea is British propaganda. Churchill and Roosevelt wanted war, and they forced it on Germany. Hitler did all he could to be friendly with Britain and France.

I don't care. Hitler put my nan in a camp along with her parents and even if I had to fight the war alone, I'd have learned to speak fluent German, and stapped my self with C-4 and got up to that mad f**cker at the Neuremberg(SP?) rally to give that ******* a niiiiiiice long hug......

Really. Is there a point to this thread....? Are you saying that we should've sat and tolorated and condoned the holocaust just because he "Claimed" to like us.........? Will you put up with a bully beating up your brother or sister because he says he likes your mum...?
Others of yours Ive quite been fascinated by.... But this....?

im just bored

umm, yeah, right. have you taken history yet? you did know Europe was in an appeasing mood to Hitler prior to ww2? Hitler was a homocicial maniac. The more countries he captured, the more jews he could kill. you you choose suicide over surrender, there's no way you're think peace. sorry, but I'm not buying this BS. To me, it's by one of those groups who believes everything is a conspiricy and aliens are being held in Area 51.

Dean, "Mate", how would you like it if I sat round if I was bored and sat around speculating publically on a thread about how if it might be preferable if your blood line had been wiped out and a mass murdering sick Ba**ard was in fact to be given leaway and power because of it....?
Use your loaf son......

Originally posted by Agent Elrond
umm, yeah, right. have you taken history yet? you did know Europe was in an appeasing mood to Hitler prior to ww2? Hitler was a homocicial maniac. The more countries he captured, the more jews he could kill. you you choose suicide over surrender, there's no way you're think peace. sorry, but I'm not buying this BS. To me, it's by one of those groups who believes everything is a conspiricy and aliens are being held in Area 51.

i agree with what u say,, and yes i have taken history...i find the link crazy so thats why i posted it
aliens in area 51..there very well could be 😄

Originally posted by dean7879
i agree with what u say,, and yes i have taken history...i find the link crazy so thats why i posted it
aliens in area 51..there very well could be 😄

Well It makes you sound redundant and racially aggresive as a sensible title would have been something like:
"Hmmmm Europe actually liked Hitler before the second world war,especially Germany, because largely Hitler convinced the German people that it was isn their best interests of their economy, post world war 1, to go a bit of a genocidal rampage ....! Crazy isn't it...?"
And yes we'd have agreed.... 'Cause a lot of us would've recognised that you had done your homework.....
But no..........

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well It makes you sound redundant and racially aggresive as a sensible title would have been something like:
"Hmmmm Europe actually liked Hitler before the second world war,especially Germany, because largely Hitler convinced the German people that it was isn their best interests of their economy, post world war 1, to go a bit of a genocidal rampage ....! Crazy isn't it...?"
And yes we'd have agreed.... 'Cause a lot of us would've recognised that you had done your homework.....
But no..........

racially aggressive? how so?
sensible title??well if i could fit any of that big title into the bar then maybe thats what i would of put..but i think you might be intelligent enough to realise that it is impossible
ive never done homework in my life..... 😎
chill out by the way...take a stress pill

Oh yeah sure.
You say you've read history, so you know who Adolf Hitler was...
And you typed the first line of your first post as a statement, right...?
And you didn't expect this reaction from somebody on the anniversary of the discovery of the holocaust...... Of course not.... Silly me......

Now Im all up for a bit of flippancy, and I'm not a big fan of histrionics,
But is it not blantantly obvious that WW2 WAS actually neccessary even to the people of the UK....? Well if Hitler had no problem with the UK,
was the V2 program/problem about....? Was it to deliver heartfelt messages of love and brotherhood on London.....?

listen to me carefully
i posted the link...tis not me saying that stuff...get it? and then u call me racially agressive!?
..........end of pointless argument.............

Yes. One that you started.

Ok. "racially sensitive" then.
Perhaps aggressive was too strong a term, But I still found this thread offensive or perhaps more accurately, an offensive waste....

Look. We can all get bored. I understand that... And I do enjoy a good contentious debate.... But come on mate... With Auchwitz, Livingstone and Prince Harry do we really need this right now....?
Peace......

sorry if it offended u
the question was...do u think ww2 could of been prevented..probably not but thats why i posted the link because it interested me
everyone knows hitler was evil..no one is saying otherwise

Im sorry too mate... Ive actually clicked on the link in question and can see that you were quoting and that this wasn't neccessarily your view or anything... So I'm sorry for going off on one at you about it..
Bit of an emotive issue with me right now, but thats not your fault I guess... I guess I'd still have to say "Death to Hitler" though and I'd rather
have had my scrote nailed to a door than make peace with that arsehole... The 'funny' thing is, that I've been talking about that with my GF lately (Who's Grandad actually served under Hitler and I met her grandpa and he was actually a very nice guy...)
and even her Grandad wanted him dead... And she felt the same...
not because 'they' lost, but out of genuine humanitian concern....
My Grandad's (British side) two brothers also fought and died in the early-mid forties against 'the fuhrer' too, and Id have done the same..
I'm sure we all have family with a similar story to tell and if the 2nd world war could've been avoided, it would've been for Hitler to have backed down in the name of good-not the allys.
And I'd love to have seen that, but he didn't.
But as I say, I now see that you weren't having a go and sorry to have bitten your ear off man.... Good luck with the guitar....... Peace.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Im sorry too mate... Ive actually clicked on the link in question and can see that you were quoting and that this wasn't neccessarily your view or anything... So I'm sorry for going off on one at you about it..
Bit of an emotive issue with me right now, but thats not your fault I guess... I guess I'd still have to say "Death to Hitler" though and I'd rather
have had my scrote nailed to a door than make peace with that arsehole... The 'funny' thing is, that I've been talking about that with my GF lately (Who's Grandad actually served under Hitler and I met her grandpa and he was actually a very nice guy...)
and even her Grandad wanted him dead... And she felt the same...
not because 'they' lost, but out of genuine humanitian concern....
My Grandad's (British side) two brothers also fought and died in the early-mid forties against 'the fuhrer' too, and Id have done the same..
I'm sure we all have family with a similar story to tell and if the 2nd world war could've been avoided, it would've been for Hitler to have backed down in the name of good-not the allys.
And I'd love to have seen that, but he didn't.
But as I say, I now see that you weren't having a go and sorry to have bitten your ear off man.... Good luck with the guitar....... Peace.

'I'd rather have had my scrote nailed to a door than make peace with that arsehole'
lol me too
im crap with the guitar.i cant play it at all lol
peace 🙂

It is true that Hitler never wanted to go to war with Britain. He did feel they were part of the superior race. But I seriously doubt that he would have existed peacefully with them in the long run.

"could ww2 have been avoided?"

Hmmm, I am sure it could have been, if say people surrendered and so forth, but just becuase there is the potential to avoid war, doesn't always mean war should be avoided, the whole period of appeasment tried that, and in the end it failed, and beside, Hitler's "vision" was not something that the world could really accept, and shouldn't have.

Im kind of getting tired of the jews whining about ww II, it was horrible what happened but even so they werent the only casualty of that war. Call it racial call it whatever you like but the jews need to take a look at their own actions today, the events of WW II can never justify the way the jews of Israel are acting NOW

Moments of Zen, Part I: The Obvious:

There was no need for air, until we needed it.

I thank you.

The point of WW2 from the side of the germans was to gain more land and have a 'racially pure' europe.
The point of WW2 from the side of the allies was to liberate europe and put an end to the oppression of the nazi regime there.